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Re: Dell's Aero Smartphone: An Embarrassment to Android

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Post by nl » Tue, Aug 31, 2010, 9:36 AM UTC

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I'm not sure what you mean by the OS image needs to be signed , but it's not true in the sense people usually mean when they talk about signed code. Most Android phones have the bootloader locked down, but that is different to requiring signed code. You can run 2.2 on the Samsung Galaxy S now (eg, http://www.cyanogenmod.com/home/cyanogenmod-6-0 , and I think there are pre-release official Samsung versions around too)…

> You do need to root it, but on the Galaxy S that's a one-click process. Does it void your warranty like it does on the Nexus One?

I assume so, but it's reversible

Re: Dell's Aero Smartphone: An Embarrassment to Android

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Post by mike-cardwell » Tue, Aug 31, 2010, 10:28 AM UTC

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My G1 is running 1.6. I thought this excluded me from getting Google Navigation, so was intending to upgrade at the end of my contract. But then one day I got an update and navigation came with it. I'm not entirely sure why I would upgrade now? I don't want to sign up for another 18 month contract if all I'm going to get for it is Flash, voice recognition and a shinier interface. So I've gone PAYG and saved myself ab…

Before you upgrade may I suggest rooting your phone, you don't have to worry about a brick if you are moving on anyway (though I don't think that happens much with android devices), and then you can have 2.2 through a rom.

How well does 2.2 run on a G1? I always expected the hardware wouldn't be good enough for a 2.2 experience and it would end up worse than using 1.6...?

Re: Dell's Aero Smartphone: An Embarrassment to Android

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Post by ZeroGravitas » Tue, Aug 31, 2010, 10:34 AM UTC

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But laymen know there is an iPhone, an iPhone 3G, an iPhone 3GS etc. Google has made a clear break with the 1.x vs 2.x series, maybe they need to make that more prominent

You are so close. The key differences between iOS versions and Android versions, as far as branding: 1. A major iOS release always coincides with a hardware revision, and are available at least one hardware revision back. Always. Android OS upgrades are not correlated with hardware revisions at ALL, and the latest hardware from one manufacturer (Dell, case in point) may be 16 months and several major versions out of…

5. You NEED to know that iOS 4 will turn your iPhone 3G into a useless lump if you foolishly upgrade to it.

The constant harping on about the utopian world of iDevices gets rather grating, even for me as a long time Apple owner. It's just a different business model, it has ups and downs that affect different people in different ways. Do we need all this concern trolling about how some random device is going to ruin it all for Google? And the utterly predictable replies from iPhone owners so distraught at the thought of Android users facing the horrors of fragmentation? What happened to the old Apple-fan way of blaming those who buy Dell devices for their own stupidity and considering them somehow sub-human as a result of their purchasing decision? Why the sudden rush of humanity and fraternity towards these poor souls?

I could perhaps agree that mostly the Apple way is still better for ordinary joes with lots of disposable income but it used to be better for a far larger group (hence why I bought an iPhone 3G) but the rough'n'tumble world of Android seems to be rapidly eroding the historical advantage Apple held with the iPhone. The fact that Apple will probably have stiff competition in tablets before they even get it upgraded to iOS 4 or release the 2nd hardware revision shows how much of their lead has been lost.

Re: Dell's Aero Smartphone: An Embarrassment to Android

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Post by wwortiz » Tue, Aug 31, 2010, 1:06 PM UTC

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Before you upgrade may I suggest rooting your phone, you don't have to worry about a brick if you are moving on anyway (though I don't think that happens much with android devices), and then you can have 2.2 through a rom.

How well does 2.2 run on a G1? I always expected the hardware wouldn't be good enough for a 2.2 experience and it would end up worse than using 1.6...?

My droid has similar hardware and it works pretty good without overclocking, check around though because I don't have firsthand experience with a G1 but they do indeed still make roms for it with froyo.