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Re: Steve Jobs explains branding

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say they make far far better products now. That's not the issue here. It's just that back before Jobs was ousted and when he returned you'd hear about Apple, you'd hear about philosophy behind it etc. Now you hear sales stats and here and there how good the product is or will be. No more philosophy or visions in talks. Maybe it's just my perception of it though.

Have you seen a keynote given by Jobs since he returned to the company? You can't watch one without hearing about their philosophy and values. Sometimes it's mere lip service, but it's always there.

I said 'and when he returned...' - so, yeah. skalpelis nailed it though.

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Here's what gets me: The disconnect between that video at the end of his presentation versus Apple today. "Think different... as long as we approve your application for download on the app store." Admittedly a pretty cool video though.

"Think Different" could easily apply to the idea of a platform you don't need to run an anti-virus on otherwise deal with the quirks of a traditional desktop OS. Also let's not get too bogged down in nostalgia -- at the time of the "Think Different" ads the Mac was far more proprietary and closed than it is today.

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A rare, wonderful and inspiring look inside the greatest marketing organization ever created.

Many businesses create Ogilvy style campaigns that sell benefits (rather than features). For example:

"Only Dove is one-quarter moisturizing cream"

"At 60 miles an hour the loudest noise in this new Rolls-Royce comes from the electric clock"

Apple understands that they are essentially in a commodity business much like Nike. It's tough to sell benefits in that environment when your benefits are the same as everyone else's. In the market they're in, everyone already understands what the benefits are and most people can use a spreadsheet, word processor or web browser equally well on an Apple or PC.

What Apple did is create a new intangible and very powerful benefit with Think Different:

The words "Think different" translated into an Ogilvy style headline would say: "If you buy this product your friends and peers will think you are different and you will stand out from the crowd.". It's not possible to communicate that directly because it's an embarrassing subject. The Think Different campaign takes a wonderful indirect approach to addressing a sensitive issue and communicating that benefit.

This approach of creating a new intangible and emotional benefit in a commodity market has worked so well for Apple that they have incorporated the marketing approach into the entire organization including their sales strategy and their products. Whereas before their products focused on differentiated features, now they focus on emotional differentiation. Apple stores are an emotional experience.

Apple's smaller market share facilitates this approach because their customers have been the minority. So you're automatically "different" if you buy Apple. These days that is less true, so it will be interesting to watch the marketing organization evolve as their market dominance increases.

Here are my notes from the video:

1. Marketing is about values

2. You don't have much of a chance to get people to remember you.

3. You have to be really clear on what you want people to know about you.

4. A great brand needs investment and caring if it's going to retain it's relevance and vitality.

5. At the time of this video Apple's brand had suffered from neglect.

6. Don't talk about features.

7. Nike makes you feel something different from a shoe company.

8. Nike honors great athletes and they honor great athletics.

9. The question Apple asked was "Our customers want to know who is Apple and what is it that Apple stands for? Where does Apple fit in this world?"

10. Apple is not about making boxes to help people get their jobs done.

11. Apple's core value is that "We believe that people with passion can change the world for the better."

12. Apple is going back to their core value mentioned in 12.

13. "Values and core values mostly shouldn't change" ~Jobs

14. "The things that Apple believed at it's core are the same things Apple stands for today"

15. The ad is a way to communicate this.

16. Jobs is clearly and intentionally emotionally engaged with the ad and that engages his audience.

17. The ideas above were distilled into "Think Different."

Re: Steve Jobs explains branding

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A rare, wonderful and inspiring look inside the greatest marketing organization ever created. Many businesses create Ogilvy style campaigns that sell benefits (rather than features). For example: "Only Dove is one-quarter moisturizing cream" "At 60 miles an hour the loudest noise in this new Rolls-Royce comes from the electric clock" Apple understands that they are essentially in a commodity business much like Nike.…

That's a thoughtful post, but I think you got the wrong message out of it. Jobs wants to create computers for people who "think different" in a way that changes the world. He's not talking about it as a fashion statement as you imply when you say:

> The words "Think different" translated into an Ogilvy style headline would say: "If you buy this product your friends and peers will think you are different and you will stand out from the crowd."

tc's comment does bring up the fact that that's not what stuck, but it is what Jobs was trying to get at.

Re: Steve Jobs explains branding

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At least at the time Jobs was thinking different himself. Very powerful idea and transformation for the company. Really planted the roots of what the company has become today. The ad itself is powerful even when watched now, 13 years later.

Re: Steve Jobs explains branding

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thanks for this video - i just wrote a post about apple marketing comparing it to christian marketing - http://makebelieve1.wordpress.com/2010/08/25/apple-promises-...

one thing i disagree with what he says is that it is -not- nike who has the best marketing department of all times but christianity

Re: Steve Jobs explains branding

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say they make far far better products now. That's not the issue here. It's just that back before Jobs was ousted and when he returned you'd hear about Apple, you'd hear about philosophy behind it etc. Now you hear sales stats and here and there how good the product is or will be. No more philosophy or visions in talks. Maybe it's just my perception of it though.

This is so offbase, that I'm not sure where to begin. Every iPod ad. The FaceTime ads, at the end of all recent Steve Jobs keynote. Apple is trying to promote their philosophy and vision constantly.

No, it's not. I see you've got brand nursing out of marketing agencies and genuine talks by Steve Jobs confused. Which makes sense, it worked.

I was referring to how before he was ousted and just after he returned he was talking very differently, more passion, genuine. Sure, related concepts to branding they have now, but related only via high concept. Something changed along the way. Take it as you will - it's just a subjective perception anyways.

Re: Steve Jobs explains branding

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I think it says a lot about how much Apple's brand is damaged for me that I can't think of one of those people in the ad, if they were alive today, using a mac without it diminishing their image in my mind.

You would think less of Gandhi and Martin Luther King if they used Macs? I think it says more about the irrationality of your Apple hatred.

Re: Steve Jobs explains branding

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Here's what gets me: The disconnect between that video at the end of his presentation versus Apple today. "Think different... as long as we approve your application for download on the app store." Admittedly a pretty cool video though.

But in fairness, in Gandhi's and Martin Luther King's time, the app store policies were even more restrictive - all apps were rejected, since there was no app store at all! I don't understand it myself, but somehow they were able to change the world despite not being able to create these apps. I totally agree that Gandhi's plan A was to make a Farmville-style game that let's you make illegal virtual salt, and MLK was…

That was incredibly satisfying, thanks.
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