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Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

BaronVonSteuben wrote: post #39
chisleu wrote: post #37

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Yep. Back when they were much more simple (like gingerbread?) I felt they hit the usability peak. My Pixel 2XL has a lot more features. It's certainly faster and better in almost every way, but it has so many trivial user experience bugs that it blows my mind that QA isn't fired.

If you could still use your gingerbread phone, you might be amazed how far it's come. I found an old Galaxy phone with 2.3 on it, and it was incredible how differently I remembered it. It was slow and clunky, and ugly by today's standard.

yeah I'm pretty sure an iphone 4 isn't doing that great either.

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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Post by dragonwriter »

MarkCole wrote: post #51
sigmar wrote: post #18

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>Google's hardware approach sucks What is wrong with the Pixel hardware? (Have never owned one and have only heard good things)

I bought a 1st gen Pixel in December 2016, so it's just over a year old. I'm delighted with every part of the hardware, except the screen. After around 6 months I noticed that the nav buttons are really badly burned in where the nav buttons are located([1] picture is not mine but it demonstates what I mean, I believe at this point mine is much worse than in this picture). This is due to the nav buttons being constant…

> This is due to the nav buttons being constantly visible in most apps, an option to hide them and only spring up when required would be perfect.

Samsung has that on the Note 8 (the 5 still had hardware buttons, I'm not sure about the 7, or other lines, though the Note 8’s dimensions means that it is probably the phone that needs it least for real estate reasons, so I'd imagine it's across the line.)

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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Post by dragonwriter »

izacus wrote: post #70
shaklee3 wrote: post #33

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Those don't exist in the iPhone either, so I'm not sure what you're arguing for. There's a reason most flagships don't have those anymore.

You forgot about Samsung Galaxy devices, which have all of that and are the most successful mobile phones right next to iPhone.

Galaxy S and Note flagship lines actually had dropped removable storage several generations ago and recently brought it back.

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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Post by mrep »

BaronVonSteuben wrote: post #39
chisleu wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Back when they were much more simple (like gingerbread?) I felt they hit the usability peak. My Pixel 2XL has a lot more features. It's certainly faster and better in almost every way, but it has so many trivial user experience bugs that it blows my mind that QA isn't fired.

If you could still use your gingerbread phone, you might be amazed how far it's come. I found an old Galaxy phone with 2.3 on it, and it was incredible how differently I remembered it. It was slow and clunky, and ugly by today's standard.

Has the responsiveness improved? It has been a while since I tried out android (htc one and galaxy s4) but I think the biggest thing that drove me back to iphone is UI.

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Post by PierceJoy »

bitmapbrother wrote: post #61
PierceJoy wrote: post #58

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Funny, I've never had a problem using my iPhone. Care to elaborate?

The long list of iOS 11 bugs and performance issues probably has something to do with it. I mean, it's just getting ridiculous now[1]. [1] https://youtu.be/61XqTT6xea4?t=45s

Do you really think someone couldn't come up with an equally long list of bugs in Android?

I've noticed a couple annoyances in iOS 11, but nothing at all that would make me consider switching. It's by no means ridiculous.

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Post by unixhero »

ariwilson wrote: post #56
elvirs wrote: post #7

after being an iPhone user for 6 years and recently switching to android (first a pixel, then one plus) I can say with confidence Google's hardware approach sucks. Android can do a lot more than iOS but it does most of the simple things in a user unfriendly way

For a contrasting perspective, I went Android to iPhone and I can say it sent me running back to Pixel as fast as I could for basic usability.

I used an iPhone 4S as an experiment during my travels in China, and kind of took a liking to it.

Of course, it was a one time fling. Android is the only way. Not a middleway, but the best way.

Clearly the only solution when on Android is to buy high end handsets and nothing at the mid or lower tiers.

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Post by unixhero »

PierceJoy wrote: post #58
ariwilson wrote: post #56

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For a contrasting perspective, I went Android to iPhone and I can say it sent me running back to Pixel as fast as I could for basic usability.

Funny, I've never had a problem using my iPhone. Care to elaborate?

No file manager

No personal files - music, ebooks, videos

Slavishly tied to Apple appstore.

ITunes requirement in the past

Useless Apple iCloud which cannot be trusted in the event of disaster (no retention policy)

Proprietary chargers

Many Android apps are more mature and have more features than iPhone equivalents.

Pricing Of handsets.

Slow handsets after 1.5 years, due to amongst others planned obsolence.

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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Post by bitmapbrother »

PierceJoy wrote: post #75
bitmapbrother wrote: post #61

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The long list of iOS 11 bugs and performance issues probably has something to do with it. I mean, it's just getting ridiculous now[1]. [1] https://youtu.be/61XqTT6xea4?t=45s

Do you really think someone couldn't come up with an equally long list of bugs in Android? I've noticed a couple annoyances in iOS 11, but nothing at all that would make me consider switching. It's by no means ridiculous.

I'd like to see that list of Android 8 bugs and then compare it to iOS 11. You just need to look at the frequency of iOS 11 point releases to see what a mess they've created. They've released 10 iOS 11 updates so far and number 11 is just around the corner.

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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Post by sumedh »

zamalek wrote: post #60
PierceJoy wrote: post #58

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Funny, I've never had a problem using my iPhone. Care to elaborate?

People are used to how their phones work, it's a form of lock-in. I can't figure out how a Mac works, never mind an iPhone. I just get annoyed in the first 10 seconds and give up. If iPhone could be made to work more like Android, I'd switch to the superior Apple privacy story. As it stands I really hate using Apple UIs.

Atleast give some constructive complaints, hating the UI sounds like a personal rant and not a good one as well when the whole world copies Apple's UI.

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Post by AlphaSite »

bitmapbrother wrote: post #78
PierceJoy wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really think someone couldn't come up with an equally long list of bugs in Android? I've noticed a couple annoyances in iOS 11, but nothing at all that would make me consider switching. It's by no means ridiculous.

I'd like to see that list of Android 8 bugs and then compare it to iOS 11. You just need to look at the frequency of iOS 11 point releases to see what a mess they've created. They've released 10 iOS 11 updates so far and number 11 is just around the corner.

More Frequent updates doesn’t neccesaraly mean more bugs. It mostly means that they can patch the OS much more quickly and easily.

Also some of these updates are feature updates and many of the updates on iOS correspond to updates to play services as much as they aren’t updates to the core OS.

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