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Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by greglindahl »

jedberg wrote: post #57
dmode wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Model X is not a 140,000 car. It starts much lower. You can similarly option up a 5 series to 100k. In any case, I prefer my Model S interiors 10x more than my X5 or Hyundai Santa Fe. Both of them have a 1000 buttons on the front dash with random functions which are hard to figure out. And let’s not get started about the iDrive or whatever it is in Hyundai. I love the clean minimalist interiors of Model S. Model 3 in…

A fully loaded X is $151,000 + taxes and license. My fully loaded Odyssey was $48,000 including all fees. I've been in other $151,000+ cars before, and the X isn't anywhere close to that.

If you don't care about performance and you don't care about having an electric car, why are you considering a Tesla?

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by greglindahl »

netsharc wrote: post #33
susanhi wrote: post #29

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I highly suggest sitting in a Model 3 before giving up your reservation. My expectations were not high from the pictures, but we took delivery 2 weeks ago and it is a phenomenal car and the interior is gorgeous. It reminds me of a mid-century modern piece of furniture. I'm coming from a Model S, have done a couple of week-long test drives of the X, and the Model 3 interior is IMO far superior. I think they'll need to…

How are the rear seats? Saw the S and X in a car show. Got in the rear of the S, holy crap, because of the battery underneath, as an adult you're basically squatting when you sit in the back (this guy is only partially sitting: https://youtu.be/XGjlSOGgDXI?t=28 ). Edit: looking at some other car reviews, it seems it's a normal way to sit in the back, but in the Model S I felt like my knees were bent so much more.

The low floor gives the opportunity to have more headroom in the back. Yes, if you're used to sitting in front seats, it's lower than you're used to.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by jedberg »

greglindahl wrote: post #71
jedberg wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A fully loaded X is $151,000 + taxes and license. My fully loaded Odyssey was $48,000 including all fees. I've been in other $151,000+ cars before, and the X isn't anywhere close to that.

If you don't care about performance and you don't care about having an electric car, why are you considering a Tesla?

I care a lot about both of those things. But I care more about the comfort of my passengers. I had hoped that the X had both the performance and the comfort, but it failed so badly on the comfort that I had to forsake performance to get the comfort.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by jedberg »

greedo wrote: post #59
toast0 wrote: post #22

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Why care about the exterior? You don't see it when you're driving.

99% of buyers care about a cars exterior. Otherwise the Pontiac Aztek would be a bestseller...

That would only be true if the Aztek were a stellar car other than its look. But it isn't.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by spectrum1234 »

rdlecler1 wrote: post #56

I wonder how much of Tesla’s problems are because of Musk’s ADD: You have SpaceX, The Boaring Company, Solar City, Tesla Betteries, multiple electric car lines, and now a truck and semi, HyperLoop, OpenAI, and probably a dozen more projects we don’t yet know about. Any one of these would be incredibly hard for any uber genius and time on any one of these is time away from something else. To what degree can you do it…

There is no doubt one company would succeed better if he gave it his full attention.

But this is a great example of the Pareto principle 80/20 rule. With his last 2% of effort he could engineer the next Tesla car. Or he could get maybe half as far as one of these geniuses on a new vision alone. If this is anywhere close to being true you can have 7-8 companies with very minimal sacrifice.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by chiph »

greglindahl wrote: post #69
chiph wrote: post #44

The Model S is aging well (they really hit it out of the park with the styling back in 2012). But rather than see Tesla introduce a new model, I think it's time for the next generation of the S.

The "facelift" S is your new generation of the S.

Car makers typically alternate between "all new" and "facelift". In Tesla's case, the facelift was the minor styling change they did a few years ago, which most noticeably got rid of the fake grill opening. So they've done their facelift - time to change the sheet metal.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by whafro »

kabdib wrote: post #37
whafro wrote: post #30

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Everyone differs here, but I think the X is actually pretty ugly at the front. The hood and grille just seem like a fussy child's face. I still love the look of the S, and think it's aging pretty well, but I couldn't bring myself to get the X in part because of the exterior design. I ended up with a 2018 XC60.

The T8?

It wasn't available when I ordered. I had a time constraint, so got the first one off the boat into North America (allegedly), so it has a T6. But all things being equal, I'd love a T8 in there.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by bborud »

greglindahl wrote: post #65
bborud wrote: post #53

My wife and I are in the market for an EV, but the thing is, even the Model 3 is a bit big for a car to drive around the city and all the tiny cars I've looked at have rubbish batteries. If Tesla did a small, two-seater city car, with an okay trunk and a decent battery I'd probably buy it.

I don't think anyone is planning on selling that car anytime soon, so you're out of luck. The Smart brand is going all electric in the US, but the battery will probably be too small for what you want. No one else is planning a 2-seater, except for very high-end cars.

There are cars being sold outside the US as well. Several big brand car manufacturers try to make that car.

They’re just not good. Yet.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by davidgould »

bborud wrote: post #53

My wife and I are in the market for an EV, but the thing is, even the Model 3 is a bit big for a car to drive around the city and all the tiny cars I've looked at have rubbish batteries. If Tesla did a small, two-seater city car, with an okay trunk and a decent battery I'd probably buy it.

Chevy Bolt. 238 mile range, size of a Honda Fit.
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