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South Korea justice ministry prepares to ban cryptocurrency trading

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Re: South Korea justice ministry prepares to ban cryptocurrency trading

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Multiple tweets stating this is all FUD. Can someone contradict or corroborate this claim? Lots of "I talked to my contact in South Korea who works for a major exchange, don't fall into the FUD. The ban is ONLY applicable to exchanges that are not following the previous KYC regulations."

http://www.kookje.co.kr/news2011/asp/newsbody.asp?code=0200&... Basically the ministry of Justice announced they are working on banning exchanges between crypto and fiat currency in Korea, and they ultimately aim to close down all exchanges. Few hours later, ministry of Strategy and Finance calls out that the ministry of Justice is announcing as if their words are final, but not all government bodies have agreed to t…

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Re: South Korea justice ministry prepares to ban cryptocurrency trading

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Was anyone talking about.com bubble blowing up before it actually did ? Speculation of crypto bubble blowing up may actually be built into the cost

Approximately every cryptocurrency buyer hopes for massive gains in the short to medium term. I don't think I've seen a single article saying "This ICO is going to generate consistent 9% returns, that's better than an index fund!"

Because of that, I don't think the possibility of the bubble popping can be built into the cost in the way you're implying. If you think there's a 20% chance your investment will dectuple and a 80% chance you'll be wiped out, you can split the difference to find your expected value. But since none of the market participants believe the current value is the long-term value, eventually it has to land one way or the other.

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It’s a bit like finding a piece of code that does something crazy. If you ask around, there could be a really good reason for it. I don’t think we’re going to have a usable crypto currency until economists get involved, or we simply relearn all the lessons we’ve learnt to date.

Yes, crypto is not complete until there are synthetic CDOs!

CDOs are in the research phase currently: https://ethresear.ch/t/collateralized-debt-obligations-for-i...

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Keeping track of crypto amidst all the hype recently, it's abundantly clear to me that the recent explosion of speculation based trading is a signifier that cryptocurrency is a bubble just waiting to burst. I don't think this is bad in any right. It looks (and I grew up in the bay area through turn of the century) just like the dot com bubble. The promising part of this is that the underlying technologies being devel…

The interesting thing is to cash out now- and invest into the amazon of cryptocurrency, when all is going down.

If anybody knew what the Amazon of cryptocurrency is, we'd all be investing into it.

For all we know that crypto is here, it just hasn't been evenly distributed yet.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100514.0 Look at all these btc ponzi schemes from 2012 Also I thought Mt Gox had a bot buying tons of btc on their own exchange pumping the price.

Oh wow, I didn't know the scamming went back that far. On the other hand... With Ponzi schemes, isn't it obvious from the start what they are? Maybe I give humanity too much credit.

Often they're started by people who have... not exactly honest intentions, but more people who believe their own hype than outright fraudsters. See the opening paragraphs of https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-12-17/martin-sh...

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Yeah, heard this 100 times already. But why does it have to be like the dot com? What if it just stays a niche market for 50 years? What you say implies that crypto is as full of potential as the internet was to make it possible for businesses to grow as big as Google, Amazon. Not mentioning of course a lot of other factors that made Google, Amazon big like political influence, globalisation, lack of competition/regu…

> Not trying to be pessimistic but genuinely curious why so many people make the analogy to the dot com period. Because most people are not creative nor critical thinkers and the extent of their brilliance is superficial pattern matching. To most people the dot-com bubble seems to fit all the patterns so by their logic it must have the same outcome. If you think critically about the differences of the crypto craze an…

It's hard to say 'Bitcoin is x'.

Perhaps the Bitcoin/Cryptocurrency situation is a close repeat of the dot-com boom/bust/rebirth.

Perhaps it's a close repeat of Tulip Mania.

Or perhaps it's a new category, and the rise of the next technology a decade from now will be a callback to what happened with Bitcoin.

This'll all seem obvious in a year or three. For now, we speculate and wait.

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Pump and dump schemes, among others, are a good example of why unregulated does not necessarily mean good.

I guess. I mean the regulated stock market has dark pools and super fast algorithms jumping in front of people's trades stealing from them. I actually feel like the playing field is more uneven between individuals and firms in the regulated stock market vs the btc exchanges. I also think the bitcoin exchanges are backroom dealing and insider trading, but I feel like they are less sophisticated vs the "legal" theft th…

I agree. People who chase whatever is going up deserve to lose their shirt at least once.

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Yeah, heard this 100 times already. But why does it have to be like the dot com? What if it just stays a niche market for 50 years? What you say implies that crypto is as full of potential as the internet was to make it possible for businesses to grow as big as Google, Amazon. Not mentioning of course a lot of other factors that made Google, Amazon big like political influence, globalisation, lack of competition/regu…

> Not trying to be pessimistic but genuinely curious why so many people make the analogy to the dot com period. Because most people are not creative nor critical thinkers and the extent of their brilliance is superficial pattern matching. To most people the dot-com bubble seems to fit all the patterns so by their logic it must have the same outcome. If you think critically about the differences of the crypto craze an…

Or there may not be any long term winners in this arena as people realise just how bad most if this stuff is for actual transactions and consumer protection.

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Yeah, heard this 100 times already. But why does it have to be like the dot com? What if it just stays a niche market for 50 years? What you say implies that crypto is as full of potential as the internet was to make it possible for businesses to grow as big as Google, Amazon. Not mentioning of course a lot of other factors that made Google, Amazon big like political influence, globalisation, lack of competition/regu…

> Not trying to be pessimistic but genuinely curious why so many people make the analogy to the dot com period. Because most people are not creative nor critical thinkers and the extent of their brilliance is superficial pattern matching. To most people the dot-com bubble seems to fit all the patterns so by their logic it must have the same outcome. If you think critically about the differences of the crypto craze an…

> superficial pattern matching.

> Bitcoin is Google.

Is this satire?

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