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Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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Re: Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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Post by tinymollusk »

drdrey wrote: post #61
catdog wrote: post #36

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You also have to do an awful lot of exercise to burn a substantial amount of calories.

I ran 16 miles this morning, burned over 2000 calories. But I won't lose any weight, I am going to eat those calories right back.

That is indeed a substantial amount of exercise! Awesome work.

In a thought experiment (where it's possible to know the exact amounts) -- do you think consuming exactly 2k kcal is perfectly even with burning exactly 2k kcal? IE, is there overhead to transform the energy? Does it account for physical/energy waste?

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Post by adrianN »

carlmr wrote: post #48
catdog wrote: post #36

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You also have to do an awful lot of exercise to burn a substantial amount of calories.

If there's any exercise that has helped me shed weight, it's hiking. By being moderately active throughout the whole day you easily burn an extra 1500-2000kcals. Jogging has never really helped in shedding weight for me, just general fitness.

How many hours per day do you hike? You probably have to hike for an hour to offset just one chocolate bar.

Re: Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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Post by tinymollusk »

justboxing wrote: post #9
dvt wrote: post #4

This is only tangentially related, but I've been practicing intermittent fasting for the past year, and I cannot recommend it enough -- it honestly changed my life. I feel better, I sleep more regularly, I have more energy, and my mind is more alert. I only eat from 12PM to 8PM. IF is also supposed to have an impact on your microbiome, reduce inflammation, and encourage autophagy (especially in the brain). PS: Please…

I second this. I too started intermittent fasting ( 16 hours fast, 8 hour eating window) and can confirm benefits that OP has mentioned. I too noticed better sleep, increased energy and reduced GI inflammation (poop better lol). I started delaying my breakfast later and later until I was able to eat "breakfast" at 1 PM. I work out (boxing or weights) in the evening at 6 to 7 / 7:30 PM 5 days a week atleast, so my las…

In a similar situation I've felt subjectively less hungry / performed better if I take some branch chain amino acids in the AM. Dunno if this makes the IF "invalid" -- I never felt significantly different during an IF. But commuting on my bike, I frequently felt weak if I was fasting, and BCAA stopped that. YMMV.

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Post by zengid »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #6

I dropped all forms of sugar and corn syrup a few months ago. I was never a health nut. Quite the opposite. It's incredible how much your physiology alters just from that. Water tastes good now. I used to drink water with crystal light, because it was so bland. Shed 20lbs without even exercising. I eat bananas, apples, peanut butter and chicken. Learned to cook a few things. You sort of have to, if you want to avoid…

Congrats on your results!

> Water tastes good now.

Drinking water feels underrated sometimes, but its a habit I've kept up for a long time. I have to keep a (mostly) full pint-glass of water around me at all times (or a bottle when at work). I never appreciated how important it is to stay hydrated when I was a kid, so I would always overheat and constantly be sweating (ironic indeed). Once I realized I needed more water I've made sure to have it within easy reach at all times.

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Post by ende »

dnate wrote: post #54
log_base_login wrote: post #12

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While I applaud your efforts to eat well, I'd posit that with some attention, you could measurably decrease the expense if you factor in certain foods and factor out others. For example, I enjoy tacos as lunch a few times a week. I make them from scratch, and while this doesn't adhere to your recommendation of no starches, I doubt they cost me $1.00 per taco, and that's with avocado, beans, onions, and peppers (plus…

I am quite surprised to see a recommendation to shop at Walmart on HN. I thought it was common knowledge that Walmart is a pretty terrible company and that people shouldn't support that? Sure, you save money, but at what cost?

Generally money is saved at negative cost.

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Post by [deleted] »

astura wrote: post #15
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #6

I dropped all forms of sugar and corn syrup a few months ago. I was never a health nut. Quite the opposite. It's incredible how much your physiology alters just from that. Water tastes good now. I used to drink water with crystal light, because it was so bland. Shed 20lbs without even exercising. I eat bananas, apples, peanut butter and chicken. Learned to cook a few things. You sort of have to, if you want to avoid…

I highly suspect any highly restrictive diet will have the same effect no matter the restriction. Especially if "junk food" is one of the restrictions. You hear plenty of stuff like "I went vegan, food tastes so much better now, I've lost weight, I have so much energy, my mood is better, blah blah blah." Same with "alkaline diet," "cabbage soup diet," "low inflammation diet," "bacon diet," "salad diet," "gluten free…

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Re: Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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dvt wrote: post #4

This is only tangentially related, but I've been practicing intermittent fasting for the past year, and I cannot recommend it enough -- it honestly changed my life. I feel better, I sleep more regularly, I have more energy, and my mind is more alert. I only eat from 12PM to 8PM. IF is also supposed to have an impact on your microbiome, reduce inflammation, and encourage autophagy (especially in the brain). PS: Please…

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Post by hycaria »

stevenwoo wrote: post #44
dawhizkid wrote: post #7

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Bananas and apples have plenty of sugar in them FYI. Depending on the brand, same with peanut butter.

A difference is if one eats an apple or banana, one gets some fiber and substance to food that probably satiates appetite more than straight sugar does. Most of the calories in peanut butter come from fat - this probably satiates hunger more than eating the equivalent amount of sugar as well.

But there are as much fiber in potatoes as in bananas. Both foods are similar. So excluding potatoes (as in example above) makes no sense to me...

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Post by flipp3r »

catdog wrote: post #36
drdrey wrote: post #14

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I have now been seeing from numerous sources that in order to lose weight, diet dominates exercise. One of the reasons is that exercise is associated with compensatory behaviors (such as increased hunger). So exercise for the health benefits, but alter your diet to lose weight. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-exercise-para...

You also have to do an awful lot of exercise to burn a substantial amount of calories.

Every day the human body burns a substantial amount of calories just being alive. You have to simply not eat insulin-raising bullshit for a couple days, and start eating less or even fasting so your body starts burning the bodyfat it's been storing all that time. Worked for me (-8kg in approx 2 weeks) no exercise involved..

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Post by BjoernKW »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #6

I dropped all forms of sugar and corn syrup a few months ago. I was never a health nut. Quite the opposite. It's incredible how much your physiology alters just from that. Water tastes good now. I used to drink water with crystal light, because it was so bland. Shed 20lbs without even exercising. I eat bananas, apples, peanut butter and chicken. Learned to cook a few things. You sort of have to, if you want to avoid…

Dropping sugar from your diet definitely is beneficial, however it's easier said than done. There's sugar in almost any food. After all, the fructose in apples and bananas is sugar as well, just not processed sugar.

What else do you eat besides bananas, apples, peanut butter, hotdogs and chicken? Doesn't exactly sound like the most varied diet. Also, peanut butter and hotdogs aren't exactly among the healthiest food options. Quite the opposite in fact.

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