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Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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I'm a Tesla fan, but in the middle of the article, it says: "The two completed the cross-country drive in 50 hours and 16 minutes, setting a new electric Cannonball Run record." That's not quite the same as the headline... It looks like petrol cars have done it in under 27 hours http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/03/ny-la-26-hours-28-m...

> It looks like petrol cars have done it in under 27 hours With pretty insane modding though. The previous record (in 28:50) was done by "just" adding fuel tanks in the trunk and laser jammers: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/31/us/new-york-los-angeles-ca...

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

#73
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are people that say he's all talk I really wish there is stronger support for him against these sorts of people. How can he be all talk when we see his rockets going up and coming back down.

Well first of all they're not his rockets. The engineers and scientists did it, he supplies the money, arguably a meritless in ck prison. Second, there are many promises he still hasn't delivered on: SpaceX targets not met, Tesla still running at a massive loss, Hyperloop being doomed to failure, etc etc. I can definitely see why people say he is mostly talk, even though admittedly he has achieved some successes.

What a ridiculous strawman. Do you want him to insert every last rivet and weld every last joint in his cars and rockets before they become 'his' cars and 'his' rockets?

Tesla I could still grant but you do him great injustice by simply ignoring how much of his personal resolve is responsible for SpaceX even existing.

Feel free to list the number of times a group of engineers have spontaneously teamed up to form a rocket company.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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post #21

There is so much negativity about Tesla. Watching Tesla reminds of the the quote "We hoped for flying cars, but what we got was 140 characters" (or something similar, I don't remember it verbatim) Every time I think about Tesla, I am reminded of the thousands of brilliant engineers toiling away in Silicon Valley trying to optimize online advertising. Maybe we could be a bit more closer to Fusion energy, maybe we coul…

The negativity is because Tesla has some truly abhorrent business practices. For me, it's out of love, not hate. Of course, there's a lot of people who stand to gain from Tesla failing.

The negativity precedes the talks of low pay etc.

And it might sound callous but plenty of companies have similar practices (and are not creating anything of earth-shattering value), so judging Tesla more than the others is a bit unfair.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

#75
post #2

Nice news, but when will they deliver? Maybe its time they start to answer that question first.

Easier to annouce a Pickup than deliver a Model 3.

Well yes, just as it's easier to make snarky comments than provide actual content, as evidenced by your post.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

#76

I drove the Model 3 last week. It’s a properly good car in it’s own right - It reminded me of the MOdel 3 from BMS in how it handles, of course the performance curve is totally different. The rethinking of the dashboard is perfect for the cell phone age. It’s Apple Good (back when Apple was good). The performance curve - the instant power at any point is addicting. The seats were comfortable, and the trunk space was…

> With a Volt, there are places that you just can’t go.

To be fair, you can charge any EV fairly quickly at any campground with 220V RV hookups. With adequate planning, I think you could drive a Bolt anywhere.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are people that say he's all talk I really wish there is stronger support for him against these sorts of people. How can he be all talk when we see his rockets going up and coming back down.

Why does Elon Musk need popular support? He's not a politician who relies on popular support for his very job. He's not an actor who relies on popular support to bring money to his films. He's a CEO. All the support he needs is to deliver on his promises. From my exceptionally limited point of view, he's at about 35% there: Space X: 100% (Reusable, self-landing rockets. Fuck yeah!) Tesla: 40% (Prototype in decent sha…

I think you could add.

Paypal: 75% (Much hate, still good option for many things.)

Solar City: 75% (Over expanded, not sure if that was a bad thing and was bought by Tesla. Still it installed 870 MW of solar in 2015 alone.)

Steve Jobs had close ties to fewer companies, Pixar, Apple, NeXT and did a similar purchase of NeXT by Apple. However, while dubious Apple greatly benefited from NeXt. So, I am willing to bet Solar City could be a similar net benefit.

The boring company is still to early to judge. Hyperloop is not yet a failure and considering it was simply a short paper I think 0% is overly harsh.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

#78
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are people that say he's all talk I really wish there is stronger support for him against these sorts of people. How can he be all talk when we see his rockets going up and coming back down.

Well first of all they're not his rockets. The engineers and scientists did it, he supplies the money, arguably a meritless in ck prison. Second, there are many promises he still hasn't delivered on: SpaceX targets not met, Tesla still running at a massive loss, Hyperloop being doomed to failure, etc etc. I can definitely see why people say he is mostly talk, even though admittedly he has achieved some successes.

Yes he didn't delivered every single item he ever talked about, but even if he won't achieve anything anymore, he gave whole mankind more than most other SV 'disrupting' founders doing just another crappy social app together.

At this point, it's pretty clear that mankind will either reach the stars ASAP, or mankind will face slow or fast decline and death on this little blue planet (albeit life will go on, just without us). He is tackling this on many fronts, where others didn't dare to risk their wealth or considered it too hard/impossible.

It feels like you have some personal issue with him (or good ol' trolling), and that's your problem. Most of us see him very positively, and for damn good reasons. Failing in some moonshots is natural, i'm sure any person with enough life experience can understand this.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

#79

There is so much negativity about Tesla. Watching Tesla reminds of the the quote "We hoped for flying cars, but what we got was 140 characters" (or something similar, I don't remember it verbatim) Every time I think about Tesla, I am reminded of the thousands of brilliant engineers toiling away in Silicon Valley trying to optimize online advertising. Maybe we could be a bit more closer to Fusion energy, maybe we coul…

Even stranger to me: I'm French and we're world-class haters. Like, culturally conditioned to be dismissive of success, always seeing something negative when people achieve big things (they must have been crooked in some shape or form along the way, they exploited others, etc). There used to be a time where American people were different in that regard. Celebrating success, entrepreneurs, daring mavericks, etc. Now a…

Postmodernism has been en vogue in the USA since the late 1950's. You only need to look to American literature since then and you'll notice much of what is considered the "most important" fiction is Postmodern. Which means it is cynical, ironic and skeptical of all the things you associate with the French.

This is not a fringe philosophical concept bound to popular novel's either. Look to the background of villains in mainstream super hero movies, to our politics (many call Trump the first Postmodern president), and the drive to be "authentic" in every aspect of the self for reasons of self promotion in some kind recursive cynical loop which other view as a perfect specimen of our contemporary irony, nearly perfected!

I'm not an expert on French culture or any culture per-se, but perhaps Americans (of which I'm one) do have a more superficial embrace of sentimentalism and a less critical approach to hero worship and "getting rich" and maybe it isn't driven by cynicism as much as naiveté but that's only one aspect of the culture as a whole. Even still, I'd argue most people are driven by the Postmodern philosophy wether they know it or not; are more cynical then they even know and skeptical of our institutions (universities, churches, etc) on one side or another.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk DOES have a lot of support. I personally suspect much of the negativity comes from backlash caused by him having a legion of fanboys. Whenever someone gets idolized like I have often seen Musk as, haters come out in reaction.

Tesla's marketing is always misleading. That irks people and from there comes the "negativity". When the Model S came out, they tried to claim that they had "solved EVs". When they introduced their self driving tech, they pretty much implied that keeping your hands on the wheel was only a legal technicality. They are always trying to claim they are two more steps ahead than they really are. I understand that it is th…

I think Model S solved electric driving. Car reviewers seem to think so, the industry seem to think so (most manufacturers announced electrical models). Range, comfort, charging locations, safety, all solved problems.

How is Tesla's supposed claim they solved electrical driving misleading?

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