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Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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> Accounts that affiliate with organizations that use or promote violence against civilians So, every US federal agency's, and every local police force's twitter accounts will be shut down?

You should read the actual post, not just the comments. > This policy does not apply to military or government entities and we will consider exceptions for groups that are currently engaging in (or have engaged in) peaceful resolution.

Well, that's quite a double standard.

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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I've gone through and reported a number of accounts that seem to violate this policy after the announcement and made note of the usernames and if they were a left wing or right wing organization. I'm curious to see if this will be enforced equally.

Many will report antifa accounts. It will be a shitfest whatever Twitter does: ban - they are pro fascists and can't distinguish between "good" violence versus "bad" violence, no ban - they have double standards for left versus right.

This post is a good example of why spacing is important. Everything after the colon should've been on multiple lines, to separate "ban" and "no ban".

You're being downvoted because people think you're pro-antifa, which is sort of sad. I had to undown your post because it was too difficult to parse initially. Thankfully, your other posts in this topic showed that my parsing was incorrect.

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Meaningless until they enforce this with their star contributors. Otherwise it's just further enforcing a set of rules for stars and another for everyone else.

Yep the verified check was simply a way to impose class distinction. You should hit up Mastodon/GnuSocial.

Be wary of Mastodon for their Embrace/Extend of GNU Social, as well as their banning of entire chunks of the federated network.

Find a good GNU Social site, and bask in the freedom. it feels like Twitter when it first started.

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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This is going to be fun. > Accounts that affiliate with organizations that use or promote violence against civilians > Content that glorifies violence or the perpetrators of a violent act. * "Support our troops" * "Punch a Nazi" * Basically any enthusiastic history account. * Mall ninjas. * Any action movie/tv property. * Star Wars. * UFC It seems almost puritan to try and deny humanity's love of violence. > If an ac…

Dear Twitter,

If I'm a member of a visibly protected minority group (Black Muslim) and I tweet "Death to Zionist Sodomites occupying Holy Jerusalem" would I be suspended? Asking for a friend.

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Specifically, there's a this policy does not apply to military or government entities loophole to these new rules, which many believe to be a workaround for these rules not applying to Trump.

That is interesting, as it reinforces the power of incumbency. If you’re the president you can say whatever you like, but if you’re a presidential challenger you have to play by the rules.

Seems a little unclear on that. Can a candidate say "If you elect me to office, I pledge to wage war against the elbonians" and post it on Twitter?

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Just today there was this essay/blog on leading German newspaper FAZ showing where censorship-by-law of "hate speech" will lead to.

[1]: http://blogs.faz.net/deus/2017/12/18/erdogans-mob-und-gruene... (in German)

[2]: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&...

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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That's why you can still duel with someone you dislike. /s

You absolutely can, in a boxing ring for example. It's not unconstrained violence if it takes place within a framework of rules - i.e. it's a sport. NFL tackles being the same thing. A Twitter feed showing _only_ illegal violent NFL tackles? Well, that might just get banned now.

You said "unconstrained", but that's not what this is about. I agree that Twitter has just entered a completely unwinnable situation, and they made a mistake because nothing they do will be balanced by everyone's definition. I'm saying the "it's not violence if it's consensual" point is ridiculous and wrong. Additionally, and perhaps obviously, I was talking about a duel, not a sport [0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duel

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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I want to condemn this as too broad reaching, and as hard-to-justify censorship.

Then again, I also don't want to keep seeing things like death threats, bullying, and general hate-laden vitriol. Seriously, look up some of the tweets aimed at August Ames and tell me that's OK in any forum.

Ultimately, I have to fall on the side of moderation in this case. A free-for-all forum has been tried, and it has failed us.

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Accounts that affiliate with organizations that use or promote violence against civilians So, every US federal agency's, and every local police force's twitter accounts will be shut down?

You should read the actual post, not just the comments. > This policy does not apply to military or government entities and we will consider exceptions for groups that are currently engaging in (or have engaged in) peaceful resolution.

Does paramilitary count as military? Do revolutionary movements count as government entities?

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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You should read the actual post, not just the comments. > This policy does not apply to military or government entities and we will consider exceptions for groups that are currently engaging in (or have engaged in) peaceful resolution.

Well, that's quite a double standard.

Yeah, basically Twitter's version of the State Sponsors of Terrorism list. You are only allowed to murder people if you agree with our politics.
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