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Re: IPhone to Droid-X: Lots to Like

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Post by StavrosK »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #19
StavrosK wrote: post #12

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I have an iPhone and I think I know what the GP is saying (although I haven't tried Android). I have a 3G which is basically unusable for the web because it's so slow , and I haven't even put iOS 4 on it. Apart from that, however, Safari basically just has no features. The form filling is so broken that, when I type half my email address in and it offers to fill it out, I tap on it to dismiss it and it fills the box…

I think an Android phone with similar specs will have the same speed (eg G1 or Magic), but modern iPhones & Android phones are much faster.

Hmm yeah, probably... My comment wasn't exclusive to the iPhone, then, so disregard that part...

Re: IPhone to Droid-X: Lots to Like

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Post by StavrosK »

megablast wrote: post #54
adbge wrote: post #38

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iOS4 makes the 3G nigh unusable because the phone is constantly forced to flush memory to swap causing the UI to hang while the OS waits to write to disk. So, no, do not upgrade a 3G to iOS4 for improved anything. (Well, the icons are a little prettier.)

No, it does not. I have been running 4.0 for the 3 weeks, sure it is a bit slower, and there are things you can do to speed it up (you shouldn't have to, but you do). But it is not unstable at all. It never crashes. Is it worth upgrading if you have a 3G? No. You get some updates apps, better email, and folders.

He said unusable, though, not unstable... Do you know if I can finally add different email addresses for outgoing mail? I have 10 email addresses that map to the same inbox, but I need to send mail from all of them. Right now iOS 3 doesn't let me do that at all...

Does anyone know if this is easy on the Android?

Re: IPhone to Droid-X: Lots to Like

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Post by archgrove »

nubela wrote: post #2

Having just moved from the iPhone experience of 3 years to an android experience. YES, YES, and YES! The android is the true fully featured phone. With the iPhone, I felt the need to tether because surfing the web is so clunky. Now, even though I have the power to tether, I don't. Because its so much easier and fun on my Milestone! The annoyances that plague this guy, well, doesn't really affect me, apart from the di…

You do realise that saying "I am now a 100% fuck-you Apple anti-fanboy" renders your entire post worthless? By the definition of fanboy you're saying your judgement is biased, your conclusions skewed, and your opinions suspect to the point that anyone who doesn't just want positive reenforcement of their existing ideas should ignore you.

Re: IPhone to Droid-X: Lots to Like

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Post by glhaynes »

adbge wrote: post #38
albertzeyer wrote: post #27

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I have read somewhere else that iOS4 has improved the MobileSafari speed/performance. Maybe you should try it. Whereby I couldn't really tell the difference. I have an 3GS and it was fast with iOS3 and it is as fast in iOS4.

iOS4 makes the 3G nigh unusable because the phone is constantly forced to flush memory to swap causing the UI to hang while the OS waits to write to disk. So, no, do not upgrade a 3G to iOS4 for improved anything. (Well, the icons are a little prettier.)

iOS doesn't use a swapfile.

Re: IPhone to Droid-X: Lots to Like

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Post by loire280 »

bconway wrote: post #51
loire280 wrote: post #22

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I'm glad you like your phone, but of course your brand new Android phone surfs the web better than your old iPhone. It's got a faster CPU, more RAM, and a higher-resolution screen. Web surfing is very similar among similarly-specced phones across all of the major OSes (it's mostly the same browser, after all).

Web surfing is very similar among similarly-specced phones across all of the major OSes Actually, not at all. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/07/android-22-demol...

Good point, I forgot about the gap in Javascript performance.

We're currently in an arms race of Javascript interpreters, though, and there's nothing stopping Apple or Palm from using Android's interpreter in the next release.

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Post by Sidnicious »

ben1040 wrote: post #65
Sidnicious wrote: post #63

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This is easy to fix. Check the account's Advanced settings, and make sure that the account's Deleted Mailbox points at the "On the Server" trash. You may also want to confirm that the Sent and Drafts mailboxes point to their Gmail equivalents. You can archive a message by moving it to the All Mail folder. In iOS 4, there's an option at the top level settings of accounts created as "Gmail" accounts to archive or trash…

Check the account's Advanced settings, and make sure that the account's Deleted Mailbox points at the "On the Server" trash. You may also want to confirm that the Sent and Drafts mailboxes point to their Gmail equivalents. If you're using the Google Sync feature (to get your mail, contacts, and calendars pushed live to your device), Google presents your Gmail account as though it were an Exchange account. Consequentl…

Good point.

I work around it by setting up the Google Sync account on the device without mail and adding it as an IMAP account as well.

Re: IPhone to Droid-X: Lots to Like

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Post by nileshk »

StavrosK wrote: post #70
nileshk wrote: post #61

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I just recently acquired a 3GS, after previously having used a 3G and a 2G. The 3GS is much faster, such that I don't feel like I experience lag in most operations. I had no idea that improving the speed could make such a difference in the entire usability of the device. I am now using my iPhone more than I had ever used previous versions. I think because the time to accomplish a task is so much shorter, I find more…

I agree with you entirely. I might paraphrase and say that every second I have to wait for my phone to perform an operation cuts my usage of it in half... I guess I was only half on topic on the previous comment, since I was talking more about slow phones than the iPhone in particular (even though it is an iPhone and the slowness is a part of it). I have struggled to find a fast phone for ages now. The fastest phone…

"I don't think you can hope that 4.1 will fix anything. Slowness on old devices is part of Apple's planned obsolescence. How else would they get you to buy a new iPhone?"

This was my feeling, too, especially with the lack of an official way to downgrade. But there are people who are reporting no slowdown, so I'm attributing this one more to incompetence than malice.

The lack of bluetooth keyboard support in the 3G on the other hand... I guess not that different than MMS or A2DP missing from the original iPhone. These things were excluded purely for marketing reasons.

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Post by jrockway »

theBobMcCormick wrote: post #60
jsz0 wrote: post #43

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K-9's UI is kind of terrible though it is fully functional.

Yup, I can never figure out why so many people recommend K-9 mail. I'm guessing from this discussion that it has more features for IMAP users, but for ActiveSync it has less, and the UI is as step backward, even more ugly and awkward than the built in Android Mail client, which IMHO is like the ugly duckling of the default Android apps.

I'm guessing that any ActiveSync features exist only by accident, from the original fork of the official Mail client. K-9 is an IMAP client, nothing else.

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Post by theBobMcCormick »

jrockway wrote: post #78
theBobMcCormick wrote: post #60

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Yup, I can never figure out why so many people recommend K-9 mail. I'm guessing from this discussion that it has more features for IMAP users, but for ActiveSync it has less, and the UI is as step backward, even more ugly and awkward than the built in Android Mail client, which IMHO is like the ugly duckling of the default Android apps.

I'm guessing that any ActiveSync features exist only by accident, from the original fork of the official Mail client. K-9 is an IMAP client, nothing else.

Are you sure? Because neither the description in the Market, nor the project description on the K9 Google Code project webpage say it's only an IMAP client. Here's the description from the K9mail Google Code Project webpage:

"K9 is an opensource email client based on the Email application shipped with the initial release of Android.

K9 is focused on making it easy to chew through large volumes of email. It's our hope that K9 leads to improvements in the core Android mail client. "

If they're intending it to be only an IMAP client, nothing more, they aren't doing a very good job communicating that.

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