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So I have to consent to be shown ads? So every site has to by default block all their own ads?
No, they can show you ads that don't use your data. You'd have to allow them to use your data to give you better ads, but you'd just get worse ads in the meantime.
My personal opinion is that there's no such thing as a "good" ad.
Does anyone know if GDPR (or similar law in the future) will actually force HN and other sites that don't have this feature, to remove accounts, at least EU ones, upon request?
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I applaud regulations promoting user privacy, even if this seems heavy handed. But does anyone else wonder about the implications of applying that regulation to those who collect data on EU residents whether they operate in the EU or not? Has the US State Department stated a position on the matter?
It is a similar concept to export of physical goods into a country/trade block. Either comply with the local regulations on quality or your goods will not be allowed. The US State Department does not really get to have a stated position other than diplomatic.
Will I as a developer or US business owner need to proactively disallow all users from outside the US (since I am not familiar with their laws) to avoid potential legal troubles, or will other countries block my site/service without me needing to do anything?
It's kinda ironic that all the people here are complaining that facebook might not actually really delete literally every single bit of information that you have, while hacker news doesn't allow you to edit your comments, delete them, or delete your profile. This sort of functionality should exist on every platform that even has accounts. Does anyone know if GDPR (or similar law in the future) will actually force HN…
However, IIRC, there is not much of a requirement of having a dedicated form of it. An email is sufficient notification you want this to happen (and you're of course free to ensure the user's identity).
After that they have to delete all data and take note of the deleted datasets so in case of a backup recovery the data will stay deleted.
How do we really know that this is actual deletion and not a deleted="true" in their databases? > It is inaccessible to other people using Facebook. The wording does sound very convincing but I really don't think we can just believe their word. After all it's Facebook.
It seems a bit naive to think that a service provider would scrub their systems on individual requests. It's not practical to perform a delete in some environments. It's certainly not practical to go through backup files and delete references in others. Everybody goes through a data recovery scenario at some point. What you should expect is best effort. Nobody is going to re-train their neural networks that reference…
There's been few debates here about the definition of to 'delete' which I won't get into. However, as a user, it rubs me wrong when companies equate simple username disassociation with deletion. It's not a user's place to wonder about the practicality of deletion at scale. A user has the right to have removed all content they've produced regardless of whether it's linked with other posts.
It's kinda ironic that all the people here are complaining that facebook might not actually really delete literally every single bit of information that you have, while hacker news doesn't allow you to edit your comments, delete them, or delete your profile. This sort of functionality should exist on every platform that even has accounts. Does anyone know if GDPR (or similar law in the future) will actually force HN…
HN would invite a lot of trolls with this an would make it really difficult to create a submission archive that makes sense.
Now I don't know how it handles account deletion but reddit handles that well, a deleted account will retain its comments without a name if the user hasn't deleted all their comments. That makes sense and works well.
It's kinda ironic that all the people here are complaining that facebook might not actually really delete literally every single bit of information that you have, while hacker news doesn't allow you to edit your comments, delete them, or delete your profile. This sort of functionality should exist on every platform that even has accounts. Does anyone know if GDPR (or similar law in the future) will actually force HN…
As far as I know, the GDPR is more of a clarification (along with some explicit guidelines for fines), than it is new legislation - so hn and similar sites would already be in breach, if they didn't allow the deletion of all profile data. I'm not certain that having to email someone at hn to do it, would be in breach of current data protection regulation. It may be that not clearly stating: "to get a record of all data hn has stored on you, make correction or delete all data - please email (...)" will be in breach of GDPR.
But afaik hn does no business in the EU - so it's not clear what sanctions would be applicable.
It's different for companies that does business in the EU / EEC.
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It seems a bit naive to think that a service provider would scrub their systems on individual requests. It's not practical to perform a delete in some environments. It's certainly not practical to go through backup files and delete references in others. Everybody goes through a data recovery scenario at some point. What you should expect is best effort. Nobody is going to re-train their neural networks that reference…
The single source of truths, all the core Facebook users data (except messages) is stored in MySQL cluster. The issue you describe is that the same data is also cached in Memcached and by other means. But deleting is entirely possible, though it's against their business model, so they make real deleting as hard to find and do as possible, and scare people away with info like "you cannot register again". Training of n…