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Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research

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Re: Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research

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You could also just reduce driving deaths by having better public transportation and reducing driving overall. Sounds like it would even be better in the long run.

> just It's not as easy as you make it sound. Americans still want cars.

Most Americans need cars.

America is a vast land compared to European countries. Public transportation can only go so far. Some American suburbs stretch more than 80 miles out of major urban centers.

Re: Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research

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There was a time when I thought of regulations as progress killers, but I find myself shifting on that and getting nervous every time I hear about self-driving tech. It's great stuff, but I really do not want my family to be the brave eggs we had to crack to get to the omelet of a driverless future. I now _like_ that someone somewhere has a book listing chemicals that aren't allowed to be shipped on an airplane, and…

I know you just want to keep your family safe, me too. But consider my case. I have NO traffic tickets on my record, but I recently started taking a medication that could cause sudden blackouts. I am still allowed to drive. I also have an ADDICTION to mobile games. I try to limit my playing to stop lights, but if traffic seems light, I will try to get away with crushing a few candies while driving. Studies have shown…

> I am still allowed to drive.

Are you certain about that? Most jurisdictions I know have laws that make it illegal to drive in when your ability to drive is impaired - even if it's cough medicine that could make you drowsy - let alone blackout.

edit: you are most likely breaking the law, that you haven't been caught yet isn't being "allowed to drive". Since we share the road with you, I'll repeat parent's appeal but directed to you: "help me, big government!"

Re: Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research

#73

There was a time when I thought of regulations as progress killers, but I find myself shifting on that and getting nervous every time I hear about self-driving tech. It's great stuff, but I really do not want my family to be the brave eggs we had to crack to get to the omelet of a driverless future. I now _like_ that someone somewhere has a book listing chemicals that aren't allowed to be shipped on an airplane, and…

I know you just want to keep your family safe, me too. But consider my case. I have NO traffic tickets on my record, but I recently started taking a medication that could cause sudden blackouts. I am still allowed to drive. I also have an ADDICTION to mobile games. I try to limit my playing to stop lights, but if traffic seems light, I will try to get away with crushing a few candies while driving. Studies have shown…

What I see here is someone who is advocating for the government to further regulate who can and can't operate a vehicle. Correct?

Re: Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> just It's not as easy as you make it sound. Americans still want cars.

Most Americans need cars. America is a vast land compared to European countries. Public transportation can only go so far. Some American suburbs stretch more than 80 miles out of major urban centers.

Most Americans need cars because American urban planning has been for many decades built around cars.

This, of course, is a solvable problem.

(It has nothing to be with how big the US is, it has to do with how US communities are deliberately engineered.)

Re: Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research

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There was a time when I thought of regulations as progress killers, but I find myself shifting on that and getting nervous every time I hear about self-driving tech. It's great stuff, but I really do not want my family to be the brave eggs we had to crack to get to the omelet of a driverless future. I now _like_ that someone somewhere has a book listing chemicals that aren't allowed to be shipped on an airplane, and…

The reason why consumer/enterprise software is so lightly regulated is that very few people die when mistakes are made. (Embedded, especially medical, is a different story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25 ) Meanwhile, cars (and roadways designed for high speeds without proper pedestrian accommodations) have been the #1 cause of injury deaths for kids for generations: https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/Leading…

I would love to see the numbers you pulled out of thin air for your statement on deaths caused by software. I've met at least one developer who quit the profession because they were writing code that "would probably lead to someone's death."

Re: Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research

#76

There was a time when I thought of regulations as progress killers, but I find myself shifting on that and getting nervous every time I hear about self-driving tech. It's great stuff, but I really do not want my family to be the brave eggs we had to crack to get to the omelet of a driverless future. I now _like_ that someone somewhere has a book listing chemicals that aren't allowed to be shipped on an airplane, and…

I know you just want to keep your family safe, me too. But consider my case. I have NO traffic tickets on my record, but I recently started taking a medication that could cause sudden blackouts. I am still allowed to drive. I also have an ADDICTION to mobile games. I try to limit my playing to stop lights, but if traffic seems light, I will try to get away with crushing a few candies while driving. Studies have shown…

>yfw this comment is unearthed during discovery and you are f*ed in court

Re: Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason why consumer/enterprise software is so lightly regulated is that very few people die when mistakes are made. (Embedded, especially medical, is a different story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25 ) Meanwhile, cars (and roadways designed for high speeds without proper pedestrian accommodations) have been the #1 cause of injury deaths for kids for generations: https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/Leading…

> The reason why consumer/enterprise software is so lightly regulated is that very few people die when mistakes are made So few people die because computers are nearly unregulated and mass manufactured. Computers are cheap and safe because we allow the market to function.

Incorrect. Look at applied computing for medicine/healthcare, those things are strictly regulated and analyzed because of their potential to harm. A 0.001% overflow in your twitter app makes you restart your phone, a 0.001% overflow in your pacemaker means you die. Immediately.

Re: Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research

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There was a time when I thought of regulations as progress killers, but I find myself shifting on that and getting nervous every time I hear about self-driving tech. It's great stuff, but I really do not want my family to be the brave eggs we had to crack to get to the omelet of a driverless future. I now _like_ that someone somewhere has a book listing chemicals that aren't allowed to be shipped on an airplane, and…

Hate to break it to you, but your family is much more likely to get killed by their own mistake or the mistake or someone else (e.g. a drunk driver) than a self driving car.

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Re: Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research

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There was a time when I thought of regulations as progress killers, but I find myself shifting on that and getting nervous every time I hear about self-driving tech. It's great stuff, but I really do not want my family to be the brave eggs we had to crack to get to the omelet of a driverless future. I now _like_ that someone somewhere has a book listing chemicals that aren't allowed to be shipped on an airplane, and…

I know you just want to keep your family safe, me too. But consider my case. I have NO traffic tickets on my record, but I recently started taking a medication that could cause sudden blackouts. I am still allowed to drive. I also have an ADDICTION to mobile games. I try to limit my playing to stop lights, but if traffic seems light, I will try to get away with crushing a few candies while driving. Studies have shown…

Get your act together, do you even realize that you’re a criminal?
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