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Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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I really want to create a public-facing roadmap that's specific to this issue. Unfortunately, our resources are limited so we often don't focus enough on blogging/publicizing our planning... but in the meantime, here's something of a brain dump: In terms of our actual data structures and algorithms, we're already starting to be in really good shape. We've dropped a number of components of our core TextBuffer to C++,…

What are the current plans about Coffeescript? I just looked at the code on Github, it says 85% Javascript, 12% Coffeescript. Is the plan to port the 12% to JS6? (and hopefully not Typescript) Great work with Atom editor. I successfully conviced my friends to move from VSC to Atom on macOS.

Thanks! Yeah all of the CoffeeScript in atom/atom should be gone in a few months probably. We use plain JS now.

It'll probably take a while before there's no more CoffeeScript in the entire Atom org. We're gradually converting the code to JS as we come upon it for other reasons.

Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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post #68

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I really want to create a public-facing roadmap that's specific to this issue. Unfortunately, our resources are limited so we often don't focus enough on blogging/publicizing our planning... but in the meantime, here's something of a brain dump: In terms of our actual data structures and algorithms, we're already starting to be in really good shape. We've dropped a number of components of our core TextBuffer to C++,…

What are the current plans about Coffeescript? I just looked at the code on Github, it says 85% Javascript, 12% Coffeescript. Is the plan to port the 12% to JS6? (and hopefully not Typescript) Great work with Atom editor. I successfully conviced my friends to move from VSC to Atom on macOS.

What's wrong with Typescript? Also, why does it matter to you? Genuinely curious.

Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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Microsoft is not known for finesse in their marketing tactics. Just had a déjà vu with Microsoft's NetPC, announced just after Sun Microsystem's Network Computers. That said, I do like VS Code very much. Gave Atom a try, but it felt sluggish and its add-ons were very fragile.

VS Code is certainly neat, but with the rush to cram everything into it, it's starting to feel more like emacs than vi.

I doubt any Electron-based editor is going to feel as snappy and light as Vi. Have you been noticing performance decreases? I haven't noticed any.

Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the development teams behind the top two open source editors introduce support for collaborative editing on the dame day, apparently unaware that they were both working on the same thing, and there being no evidence of collaboration between the two?

> top two open source editors

I must have missed the announcements for vim and Notepad++.

Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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i prefer this over floobits in that i don't need a floobits account, just a github account, which pretty much all devs will already have. it would be nice if there was a way to do this without needing the github account though.

With floobits though you can go ahead and use atom while I chill in vim or sublime. It doesn't demand that you both use the same editor.

for now. since this is the framework, I think we'll see plugins for other editors soon enough.

Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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VS Code is certainly neat, but with the rush to cram everything into it, it's starting to feel more like emacs than vi.

I doubt any Electron-based editor is going to feel as snappy and light as Vi. Have you been noticing performance decreases? I haven't noticed any.

VS Code is trying hard to be an IDE for all languages. If you use pure VS code without extensions, it quite snappy. But as you start adding more and more extensions, it starts slowing down and that too quite fast.

Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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“participants all keep their own custom key bindings, packages, and themes.” what happens when two different people editing the same document have two different settings for # spaces per tab character? whose takes precedence? (Or would there be a possibility of inconsistent spacing depending on who is adding a tab?)

I would guess that tab -> spaces happens locally, and then the spaces are what's sent over the wire. So it would be whoever inserted the tab. (What other possibility could there be?)

Why would spaces be sent over the wire?

Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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Microsoft is not known for finesse in their marketing tactics. Just had a déjà vu with Microsoft's NetPC, announced just after Sun Microsystem's Network Computers. That said, I do like VS Code very much. Gave Atom a try, but it felt sluggish and its add-ons were very fragile.

VS Code is certainly neat, but with the rush to cram everything into it, it's starting to feel more like emacs than vi.

That VS Code is not Emacs-like, that’s my problem with it.

In my experience nothing beats Emacs at editing text. Vim has better shortcuts, but Emacs is just smart about everything.

My problem with Emacs is that it’s showing its age, it’s hard to configure and you have to learn an old and obscure LISP dialect for it. On the other hand I’ve heard that VS Code plugins are a joy to develop, MS apparently did a good job at that.

But Emacs? Yes please, I want that — plus to be honest, in 20 years from now Emacs will still be around, whereas I have my doubts about these fancy new editors.

Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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What are the current plans about Coffeescript? I just looked at the code on Github, it says 85% Javascript, 12% Coffeescript. Is the plan to port the 12% to JS6? (and hopefully not Typescript) Great work with Atom editor. I successfully conviced my friends to move from VSC to Atom on macOS.

What's wrong with Typescript? Also, why does it matter to you? Genuinely curious.

Curious, Why does it matter to you?

On the Atom.io website https://atom.io/ it reads "A hackable text editor for the 21st Century". Well I can code in JavaScript 5 and 6. I love love it when a project sticks to web standard, and not have to worry about slangs I don't care about.

> Typescript is great at catching bugs

The same with JavaScript. Google Closure compiler and anyway most IDEs "understand" JavaScript too and catch bugs. JavaScript is dynamically typed not typeless.

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