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Fedora 27 released

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Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by fhood »

dmix wrote: post #63
fhood wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I cannot disagree more. 90% of the most obnoxious issues I deal with on linux are related to nasty driver incompatibilities, and you will not convince me that I should have had more experience with linux. I want my drivers to work on install. I shouldn't need a second computer and a usb drive to get my system working.

... which is why I noted the importance of using well-supported hardware, ie Thinkpad or Dell XPS which are both very well documented in the ArchLinux wiki and well supported by the community with drivers. This solved a big chunk of the issues I was experiencing. I've found the people who attack Linux for lack of graphics/network driver support are people who haven't used it in recent years. This was a far bigger pro…

Fair enough, I mostly meant that certain distros are more likely to support your hardware out of the box.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by dralley »

ufo wrote: post #21
s_kilk wrote: post #2

Not the most exciting release, but boy am I glad Fedora exists. I switched over from Ubuntu around this time last year and it's been so much better, more stable, better packaging, more up-to-date packages by default. A really great OS. And on my Thinkpad it runs flawlessly.

Fedora 26 came out a bit late so Fedora 27 had a shorter release cycle to compensate.

That's not the real reason.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by _ea1k »

epicide wrote: post #49
_ea1k wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have experimented with Arch at times, but I didn't have a great experience with the package repository. It seems like I had to go to AUR for a lot of packages that were in the default repository (or at least RPM Fusion) for Fedora.

Isn't having to go to RPM Fusion for a package effectively the same as having to go to the AUR?

In the past, I might have said that there were some major similarities, but not so much now. The issue that I see with AUR is that each one is really independent and there isn't much of an assurance as to how well updated it would be. In the past, RPMFusion was also too slow to update for me, though, and I would frequently deal with update failures because of it.

But that changed a few releases back. I literally just updated from Fedora 26->27 and all of the RPMFusion packages were automatically upgraded along with it. I have also found that the repo maintainenance is exceptional at this point.

I think that the Fedora equivalent of AUR is probably COPR, but COPR probably isn't as good as AUR overall.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by Lordarminius »

hd4 wrote: post #5
s_kilk wrote: post #2

Not the most exciting release, but boy am I glad Fedora exists. I switched over from Ubuntu around this time last year and it's been so much better, more stable, better packaging, more up-to-date packages by default. A really great OS. And on my Thinkpad it runs flawlessly.

I also left Ubuntu recently, so I'm a bit of a Fedora noob but the KDE spin has been amazing, not sure if that's got more to do with KDE or Fedora though. The partition manager has an annoying bug hen opening in 26 so I'm hoping that got fixed. And I think the new Firefox will come packaged or at least part of a normal update, so good times. HP Pavilion and it works completely fine.

I had the opposite experience. Could not install Fedora 26 on a HP machine alongside Windows 10. I was ready to pull my hair out... Ubuntu installed fine. Never did find out what the issue was.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by otto_ortega »

If you are planning to try Fedora, here is my recommendation to get an astonishingly great set up in no time:

- Do a fresh install

- Use Fedy [0] install with a single click pretty much any development IDE you may need plus other must-have tools (Skype, Dropbox, VirtualBox, TeamViewer, etc...)

- Install the "dash to panel" Gnome extension [1]

- Use Fedy to install Numix or Arch as themes and "pimp" your GUI ;)

- Enjoy!!

Here is how my desktop looks with the described set up: https://snag.gy/F6SM4L.jpg

[0] https://www.folkswithhats.org/

[1] https://github.com/jderose9/dash-to-panel

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by raintrees »

Is Adobe's Flash product supported? I use a Flash-based tool for Remote Desktop (400+ systems under management) and difficulties getting Flash to work caused me to give up on Fedora 26. Mint has Flash support from the start...

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by ufo »

raintrees wrote: post #76

Is Adobe's Flash product supported? I use a Flash-based tool for Remote Desktop (400+ systems under management) and difficulties getting Flash to work caused me to give up on Fedora 26. Mint has Flash support from the start...

Fedora doesn't include any nonfree or patent encumbered software by default (for legal and project policy reasons). But if you really need flash you should be able to get it from 3rd party repositories.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by bckygldstn »

otto_ortega wrote: post #75

If you are planning to try Fedora, here is my recommendation to get an astonishingly great set up in no time: - Do a fresh install - Use Fedy [0] install with a single click pretty much any development IDE you may need plus other must-have tools (Skype, Dropbox, VirtualBox, TeamViewer, etc...) - Install the "dash to panel" Gnome extension [1] - Use Fedy to install Numix or Arch as themes and "pimp" your GUI ;) - Enjo…

Fedy looks interesting, but I couldn't figure out how it works.

Is it like another package manager, or can I use dnf to manage/update the packages it installs?

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by Tomte »

What's the HiDPI situation (with KDE or Gnome) today?

Last I checked, I could drive an HiDPI display without problems, but not the LoDPI display by its side, because you couldn't do independent scaling of the displays.

Has that changed, yet?

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by lima »

nickysielicki wrote: post #37
lima wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I too went from Arch to Fedora and life is easier now. It's astonishing just how well Arch works, but maintaining it is still a lot of work. I'm pretty busy and spent too much time fixing my Arch machine, which outweighed the time I was saving. I still have an Arch laptop and many Arch virtual machines for playing CTFs and HAM radio stuff. Flatpak is a fine replacement for AUR in many cases, and it's more secure, too…

I'm surprised you prefer arch linux for amateur radio stuff. Hamlib, wsjtx, and fldigi are packaged and in the main repositories on fedora, but the same is not true for arch linux. What software are you using that you find easier with arch linux?

Most important reason is that I haven't actually tried.

Shack laptop is running Arch and a bunch of custom stuff that happened to compile fine on Arch.

Your comment made me check, and even GNURadio and osmosdr is packaged in Fedora. Huh. Time to re-visit that decision :-)

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