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Breitbart, other conservative outlets escalate anti-SpaceX campaign

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Re: Breitbart, other conservative outlets escalate anti-SpaceX campaign

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AFAIK, China only has one. And it seems to work remarkably well. At least they seem to have very smart people at the top.

I would say the bottom quintile Americans is doing orders of magnitude better than the bottom quintile of Chinese. Maybe even bottom half. This is probably true when comparing any developed nation to a developing nation.

It seems the bottom quintile Americans (WRT intelligence) took over the government...

Burn, karma, burn!

Re: Breitbart, other conservative outlets escalate anti-SpaceX campaign

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Suppose ULA charges 10x for launches and SpaceX bargain bin launches that get ever cheaper(with reusable rockets) have threatened ULA. I bet if you follow the money you will find the culprits.

ULA isn’t the only entity hurt by cheap launches.

Are you alluding to other launch providers such as Russia, European Space Agency, etc, or did you have something else in mind?

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This new flavor of conservatism is so strange in light of how bound to free market ideals most flavors of conservatism are. In general, I really quite dislike Conservative/Liberal labels as political stances are not two-dimensional, but rather multidimensional. Parties are loose alliances of disparate groups. And somehow there's this rising contingent of neocons, who also happen to dislike SpaceX. Does anyone underst…

"Neocons" were the foreign-policy hawks of the 2000s. These guys largely call themselves the "alt-right". They're basically as bad as you've heard, but hiding it sometimes. Even I find this particular turn against SpaceX somewhat weird. My internal model of the alt-right has largely been that they have one wing who are basically Nazi fanfiction, another who idolize the "throne and altar conservatism" of pre-Revolutio…

If you want to get conspiratorial about it, SpaceX is a huge threat to both the Russian space launch industry and to Boeing/Lockheed.

More seriously, in the 2017 conservative pathology, the Russian government are 'good guys' and American businessmen who quit Trump's economic council are 'bad guys'.

Re: Breitbart, other conservative outlets escalate anti-SpaceX campaign

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This new flavor of conservatism is so strange in light of how bound to free market ideals most flavors of conservatism are. In general, I really quite dislike Conservative/Liberal labels as political stances are not two-dimensional, but rather multidimensional. Parties are loose alliances of disparate groups. And somehow there's this rising contingent of neocons, who also happen to dislike SpaceX. Does anyone underst…

> This new flavor of conservatism is so strange

Calling what Breitbart promotes "conservatism" is very kind. I wouldn't be that generous.

Re: Breitbart, other conservative outlets escalate anti-SpaceX campaign

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Elon Musk has proved again and again that he is a gift from heaven to the human race. We must continue to support genius like him for the sake of humanity. Stop wasting money on endless wars, entitlements, fraud, waste, abuse, etc. Give our tax dollars to people that want to help mankind make a quantum leap forward. Extending life beyond earth is a necessity for the sustainment of humans

Re: Breitbart, other conservative outlets escalate anti-SpaceX campaign

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Bloody hell, I swear we're living in the pulpiest political-thriller novel I've ever fucking heard of.

My personal theory for a while has been that the world actually did end in 2000. We are living in a parody alternate dimension where the previous gods have been replaced by low-rent hacks. This timeline is like a show that's been renewed for one season too many.

> the previous gods have been replaced by low-rent hacks

Do you have any idea how much an actual god costs?! This is the best we could manage. Be grateful this low-budget universe is still here.

Re: Breitbart, other conservative outlets escalate anti-SpaceX campaign

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I imagine it's because Elon Musk leans liberal (or at least non-Republican), and in particular is a highly visible crusader for action to combat climate change. The American right wing has decided that denying climate change is a core value, and trying to get people to take action against it is a mortal sin. SpaceX is not directly involved in that, but Tesla is, and I doubt places like Breitbart are interested in car…

> SpaceX is not directly involved in that, but Tesla is, and I doubt places like Breitbart are interested in carefully drawing lines between the man's different companies. So you are accusing Breitbart of attacking Tesla (even though this is about SpaceX) because they won't "carefully draw lines", without a hint of irony that you can't be bothered to draw careful lines between the companies, and have dragged Tesla in…

You’re right, not every criticism is about disliking Musk. But I’m pretty sure this one is.

I dragged Tesla into the conversation because I think it’s relevant. So do they.

Re: Breitbart, other conservative outlets escalate anti-SpaceX campaign

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"Musk has given lavishly to politicians, especially Arizona Senator John McCain (R). In return, McCain added Section 1615 to this year's defense authorization bill, which includes language to restrict the military from investing in new launch systems."

As much as I love Musk, this is fucked up. Just a normal day in the American democracy I guess

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