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Mark Twain’s Get-Rich-Quick Schemes

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Re: Mark Twain’s Get-Rich-Quick Schemes

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post #49

Nice article, but what do the title and text have to do with each other? Spending ~30+ years learning to write and sell books doesn't look like a Get-Rich-Quick scheme to me. His father also bought land so that his future generations could become rich. That's not quick either.

It seems even The Paris Review is not immune from clickbait headlines.

Re: Mark Twain’s Get-Rich-Quick Schemes

#72

I expected discussion of his investment in a typesetting machine. They have one in the Mark Twain museum in Hartford. Its a big machine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paige_Compositor "The Paige Compositor typesetting machine that drove the family to the brink of bankruptcy, forcing them to leave their Hartford home." http://www.marktwainhouse.org/museum/our_collection.php

Seriously, how could they not mention this? The headline really has nothing to do with the article...

Re: Mark Twain’s Get-Rich-Quick Schemes

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Historically, the price of food was much higher than it is now. Thank our farmers for operating more efficient year after year. https://mjperry.blogspot.nl/2010/07/as-share-of-income-ameri...

You are right that modern technology has figured out how to turn energy into soil (way oversimplified!), and that probably 80% of the nitrogen in the bodies of any of us reading this came from the Haber process. However, it still sounds bizarre that about 90% of their expenses was food.

As someone who grew up incredibly impoverished it's not bizarre to me. Sounds a bit high, but not terribly so. Rent and food together frequently were more than 100% of my mom's income. We relied heavily on food charity.

Re: Mark Twain’s Get-Rich-Quick Schemes

#74
post #63

So it says $450k then is equivalent to about $11M now, a multiple of about 24. So scaling up.. the coal miner's daily pay was about $36 in today's money and monthly rent about $144. A 3 bed NYC apartment, on the other hand, was about $1920 in today's money. Seems the gap between poor and the 'typical' rich has come down a lot, even if it doesn't feel like it.

Not to mention the quality of life of the poor now, vs even the 1980s, let alone 1880s, has significantly improved. The poor didn't have smartphones, flat screen TVs, and broadband internet plus quality/variety of food. In the rush to close a largely abstract gap (as it is by nature entirely relative to some previous, also unique, point in history) I worry we risk losing touch with the practical day-to-day gains/cost…

Are iphones, TVs, and internet the measure of "quality of life" we want to settle on?

Re: Mark Twain’s Get-Rich-Quick Schemes

#75
post #49

Nice article, but what do the title and text have to do with each other? Spending ~30+ years learning to write and sell books doesn't look like a Get-Rich-Quick scheme to me. His father also bought land so that his future generations could become rich. That's not quick either.

We can change the title but someone needs to suggest a better one, as I can't think of one.

A good title is accurate and neutral (which doesn't necessarily mean boring) and ideally uses representative language from the article.

Re: Mark Twain’s Get-Rich-Quick Schemes

#76
post #63

So it says $450k then is equivalent to about $11M now, a multiple of about 24. So scaling up.. the coal miner's daily pay was about $36 in today's money and monthly rent about $144. A 3 bed NYC apartment, on the other hand, was about $1920 in today's money. Seems the gap between poor and the 'typical' rich has come down a lot, even if it doesn't feel like it.

Not to mention the quality of life of the poor now, vs even the 1980s, let alone 1880s, has significantly improved. The poor didn't have smartphones, flat screen TVs, and broadband internet plus quality/variety of food. In the rush to close a largely abstract gap (as it is by nature entirely relative to some previous, also unique, point in history) I worry we risk losing touch with the practical day-to-day gains/cost…

> Not to mention the quality of life of the poor now, vs even the 1980s, let alone 1880s, has significantly improved. The poor didn't have smartphones, flat screen TVs, and broadband internet plus quality/variety of food

It's not about gadgets (because technology advancements made them cheaper over time), the difference between poverty and wealthy is about salary and opportunities.

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15041758

> Being poor is always being under constant stress and worry. A worry those who are not poor will never understand.

Re: Mark Twain’s Get-Rich-Quick Schemes

#77

So it says $450k then is equivalent to about $11M now, a multiple of about 24. So scaling up.. the coal miner's daily pay was about $36 in today's money and monthly rent about $144. A 3 bed NYC apartment, on the other hand, was about $1920 in today's money. Seems the gap between poor and the 'typical' rich has come down a lot, even if it doesn't feel like it.

Inflation is a funny beast. The measure of inflation is relative to a weighted index, the composition of which and weights thereof constantly changing over time. In fact, the relative price movements require changing weights, just like how index funds have to change stock allocations based on price movements. At any point in time, prices for some things are moving downwards and prices for other things are moving upwa…

But then and now people had a salary and paid for a roof over their heads. Which is what the GP is comparing.

I like the nuance you add but I don't think it applies well to the GP's comment.

Re: Mark Twain’s Get-Rich-Quick Schemes

#78
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention the quality of life of the poor now, vs even the 1980s, let alone 1880s, has significantly improved. The poor didn't have smartphones, flat screen TVs, and broadband internet plus quality/variety of food. In the rush to close a largely abstract gap (as it is by nature entirely relative to some previous, also unique, point in history) I worry we risk losing touch with the practical day-to-day gains/cost…

Are iphones, TVs, and internet the measure of "quality of life" we want to settle on?

What’s great about this country is that America started the tradition where the richest consumers buy essentially the same things as the poorest. You can be watching TV and see Coca-Cola, and you know that the President drinks Coke, Liz Taylor drinks Coke, and just think, you can drink Coke, too. A Coke is a Coke and no amount of money can get you a better Coke than the one the bum on the corner is drinking. All the Cokes are the same and all the Cokes are good. Liz Taylor knows it, the President knows it, the bum knows it, and you know it.

— Andy Warhol

Re: Mark Twain’s Get-Rich-Quick Schemes

#79
post #72

I expected discussion of his investment in a typesetting machine. They have one in the Mark Twain museum in Hartford. Its a big machine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paige_Compositor "The Paige Compositor typesetting machine that drove the family to the brink of bankruptcy, forcing them to leave their Hartford home." http://www.marktwainhouse.org/museum/our_collection.php

Seriously, how could they not mention this? The headline really has nothing to do with the article...

From TFA:

Excerpted from How Not to Get Rich: The Financial Misadventures of Mark Twain by Alan Pell Crawford. Copyright © (2017) by Alan Pell Crawford. Reprinted by permission of Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.

Re: Mark Twain’s Get-Rich-Quick Schemes

#80
post #63

So it says $450k then is equivalent to about $11M now, a multiple of about 24. So scaling up.. the coal miner's daily pay was about $36 in today's money and monthly rent about $144. A 3 bed NYC apartment, on the other hand, was about $1920 in today's money. Seems the gap between poor and the 'typical' rich has come down a lot, even if it doesn't feel like it.

Not to mention the quality of life of the poor now, vs even the 1980s, let alone 1880s, has significantly improved. The poor didn't have smartphones, flat screen TVs, and broadband internet plus quality/variety of food. In the rush to close a largely abstract gap (as it is by nature entirely relative to some previous, also unique, point in history) I worry we risk losing touch with the practical day-to-day gains/cost…

Quality of food?

Poor areas are often surrounded by convenience stores and gas marts as their "grocer options". Not to mention, the increase in salt, sugar, and preseratives (as well as decrease in soil quality!) going into food products.

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