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Shimano wants to make your bike as smart as your car

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Re: Shimano wants to make your bike as smart as your car

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This is plainly not true. In 99% of America (read: not cali, nyc, etc) if you lock your bike up it won't get stolen.

I'm in a suburb and had the seat stolen off a department store bike.

I have some friends in San Diego and they had department store bikes not visible from the street in a fenced in carport and they were stolen so now they lock their replacement bikes up and painted them to look like junk.

Re: Shimano wants to make your bike as smart as your car

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One issue is that now a lot of riders are using blinking lights all the time when riding for visibility reasons (during the day), so the arrow would need to be big enough to differentiate and visible front and back so now we could be talking about something much more obtrusive. If they're on the back, there's a limit to how big one can go (on easy to mount positions) because the rider's legs/feet/butt will strike pro…

Could they turn that blinking light into a an arrow at the appropriate time? I ride a motorcycle and have upgraded all my signal lights to the maximum legal output. I would probably test to see if changing the colors was also effective. I don't think it would have to all that large, maybe half the size of an automobile license plate. When it is just going down the road, flash white. When it is turning, flash orange o…

Those sound like good ideas, though something that big would still have an issue fitting on something other than a recumbent or cargo bikes (often see lights that size already on those now).

Re: Shimano wants to make your bike as smart as your car

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In Copenhagen people raise their hand to indicate a stop. I wish we'd adopt this in the U.S.

Do people have three hands in Copenhagen, because last time I checked my bike had two handbrakes, and I have to use both of them to stop safely?

If you have to use both brakes to stop your bike then your brakes are too weak.

Re: Shimano wants to make your bike as smart as your car

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post #66

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Could they turn that blinking light into a an arrow at the appropriate time? I ride a motorcycle and have upgraded all my signal lights to the maximum legal output. I would probably test to see if changing the colors was also effective. I don't think it would have to all that large, maybe half the size of an automobile license plate. When it is just going down the road, flash white. When it is turning, flash orange o…

Those sound like good ideas, though something that big would still have an issue fitting on something other than a recumbent or cargo bikes (often see lights that size already on those now).

I was thinking about that and it could just attach to the frame and then use something like an aluminum pole to hold it out over the rear tire. It'd be light and adjustable.

It'd look dorky, but it might save lives. I doubt it would add much weight or reduce aerodynamics very much, at least not as regular rider speeds. It's not like they would use it while racing.

Re: Shimano wants to make your bike as smart as your car

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In Copenhagen people raise their hand to indicate a stop. I wish we'd adopt this in the U.S.

Do people have three hands in Copenhagen, because last time I checked my bike had two handbrakes, and I have to use both of them to stop safely?

Not a professional bike mechanic (I build bikes as a hobby) but in general your front brake should be set up to be powerful enough on its own. This requires clean rims, and clean, non-worn, non-hardened brake pads.

Re: Shimano wants to make your bike as smart as your car

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"It's reminiscent of a modern car, where you can control all the critical vehicle functions from a few buttons on the steering wheel." So, one then? The horn? "Critical" clearly means something different to someone tricking-out a push bike with thousands of dollars of marginally useful kit.

Do you not have a modern car, with their many buttons on the steering wheel?

No, I do not.

Re: Shimano wants to make your bike as smart as your car

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The grumpy old man in me likes my bike to be as mechanical as possible, I don't want to remember to charge my shifters, power meter, gps, etc. Maybe that's why I still ride a 1989 Trek 1200 with down tube shifters and biopace chain rings.

I'm 30, but I have been riding the same 1983 Motobecane since high school as my main commuter bike (~50 miles a week). Down tube friction shifters make maintenance on the road very easy.

That said I can't vouch for the biopace rings...

Re: Shimano wants to make your bike as smart as your car

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post #56

I would like to see American magazines taking a more critical look at these lights. Like virtually all bike front lights sold in the USA, the Garmin UT800 has a circular beam, making it pretty much useless for anything. Proper bike lights have asymmetric projection beams that put the light on the road, not up into the sky. Unfortunately an American bicyclists who wants one of those lights is pretty much obligated to…

what brands would you recommend? I've been looking for exactly what you're talking about.

I have a few Busch & Mueller lights I like. To my knowledge only Peter White Cycles sells them in US.

Re: Shimano wants to make your bike as smart as your car

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Bicycle-building has replaced my obsession with building PCs. Unlike PCs, bike performance doesn't follow Moore's Law -- bikes make forty years ago, if kept in decent condition, are still going to be better bikes than a new bike purchased at Walmart or Target.

I'm old-fashioned, but I generally want able-bodied folks to get on the saddle if they can, whether it's an old clunker or a new e-bike. Shimano makes amazing electronic components, but what about the cheap competitors that start flooding the market with integrated parts that break? Will bikes be salvageable and maintainable beyond that point? Are we going to get into a planned obsolescence situation here?

Re: Shimano wants to make your bike as smart as your car

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Automatic lights would be amazing in ridesharing bike systems, like Nike's Biketown that we have here in PDX: https://www.biketownpdx.com/ I see these fancy "smart" features very useful for making biking convenient and simple for very casual biking. Hard core bikers already are happy for the most part, and probably only care about shaving off marginal amounts of weight.

What are Automatic Lights ?
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