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A collection of non-standard punctuation marks

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Re: A collection of non-standard punctuation marks

#71

Much punctuation evolved organically from scribal shorthand. On the internet, I can see a contraction of /s into a symbol being one of the likeliest candidates for turning into punctuation.

And that's as formal as someone being labelled a 'troll'.

None of the internet's fads or memes deserve to be preserved in punctuation rules. This is a joke.

Re: A collection of non-standard punctuation marks

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I'd use a question comma, there are often times where I'll phrase a question and then expound on some deeper specifics - generally things that I would consider implied, but that many people would miss, leading to the misinterpretation of the question. Essentially everything (for me, at least) after the question comma is generally parenthetic in nature.

All the examples of question comma on the site can easily be written as two sentences though.

And most sentences with a semi-colon could also; it's often a matter of personal preference without well-defined fixed rules.

Re: A collection of non-standard punctuation marks

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Proposals for an irony punctuation sign have been around since late nineteenth century. Stylistically, I prefer this relatively recent Dutch proposal¹.

But, as noted in the wikipedia articles, some feel that explicitly indicating when text is meant ironically defeats its purpose; irony is supposed to make you think.

1: The 'Het ironieteken van de CPNB' one the right: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironieteken

Re: A collection of non-standard punctuation marks

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All the examples of question comma on the site can easily be written as two sentences though.

And most sentences with a semi-colon could also; it's often a matter of personal preference without well-defined fixed rules.

> And most sentences with a semi-colon could also

Well, yeah, since the difference between a comma and a semi-colon is the latter joins independent clauses, it is necessarily the case that any semi-colon use for joining (as opposed to its use in, e.g., lists) can be replaced by a period, you just lose the indication that the two independent clauses are tightly associated.

Re: A collection of non-standard punctuation marks

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I occasionally use interrobang (?! - not sure if there is a unicode character), but the rest seem quite useless. Also, this site doesn't let you copy text...WTF developers?

I'd use a question comma, there are often times where I'll phrase a question and then expound on some deeper specifics - generally things that I would consider implied, but that many people would miss, leading to the misinterpretation of the question. Essentially everything (for me, at least) after the question comma is generally parenthetic in nature.

a question mark doesn't have to end a sentence. such a question mark is often used to separate a succession of questions that all elaborate one idea. it used to be more common, but i know as recently as 1991 ursula le guin used it in the story "Texts", ("Whatever those eleven years had been, the length of a marriage? a child's life? they were gone"...)

most of those marks only have any cause to exist at all because people are so stuffy about punctuation, unless you wrote "The Dispossessed."

Re: A collection of non-standard punctuation marks

#76

I've seen these "non-standard" ones in practice: ?! - Shock and confusion "Apple did what?!" /s - Sarcasm "wow, I'm happy /s" (?) - Doubt "I think Mark said we was done (?)"

sort of related: it drives me crazy when people use a question mark to show doubt, (sometimes sarcastically), instead of to ask a question. i've never seen (?) before, but i see "i think mark said he was done?", a lot.

even though it drives me crazy, it shows that special punctuation is unnecessary. people can just keep doing that awful thing, and there's no real ambiguity.

Re: A collection of non-standard punctuation marks

#77

Proposals for an irony punctuation sign have been around since late nineteenth century. Stylistically, I prefer this relatively recent Dutch proposal¹. But, as noted in the wikipedia articles, some feel that explicitly indicating when text is meant ironically defeats its purpose; irony is supposed to make you think. 1: The 'Het ironieteken van de CPNB' one the right: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironieteken

"But, as noted in the wikipedia articles, some feel that explicitly indicating when text is meant ironically defeats its purpose"

Is that, in itself, irony?

Re: A collection of non-standard punctuation marks

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They're using SVG

They have purposely disabled being able to select text (outside of the SVG graphics) by literally doing this in CSS: * { user-select: none; } The user-select: none; is intended for places where interaction with an element (e.g., drag and drop, clicking, sliding) is required and text selection should not occur. You might use it discretely on a HTML button. Blanket banning of text selection is a habit I've seen with de…

I've noticed that I'm unable to select text in facebook posts in the browser on my phone. Quite irritating.

Re: A collection of non-standard punctuation marks

#80
How many of these are part of Unicode?

The download link just a font that uses the Unicode Private Use Area to display each of these glyphs, which is particularly disappointing for interrobang which I know has an entry at U+203D, but I'm not sure about the rest of them?

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