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French chef asks to be stripped of three Michelin stars

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Re: French chef asks to be stripped of three Michelin stars

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He could just do what he wants anyway, and not care if he loses a couple of stars. There will be one brief period of "OMG, local 3-star restaurant lost ranking" and after that, nothing.

It's a much bigger deal for top-end restaurants than you might think. (To the detriment of the field, IMO. But I fully admit that is a debatable point.)

Agreed. But what does he want then? Keeping the stars without being judged?

If he wants to cook his own style (which I can totally understand) he has to put up with it. I am not shielded from my life decisions, either.

Re: French chef asks to be stripped of three Michelin stars

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Why not just do what you like and ignore the stars? This just seems like a weak attitude. "Please, don't judge me anymore I can't take it". If you care, you care, if you don't care you don't care. It's not like Michelin forces him to do anything. Perhaps put a note on the door: "Sorry, I do what I like and at any moment your expectations based on Michelin's stars may be different from what I want to do with my restau…

Dropping out of "competition" will be better publicity than losing a star.

But if doing this for publicity, then it's insincere.

Re: French chef asks to be stripped of three Michelin stars

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I suspect they are? I mean, if they weren't showing up then the restaurant would be out of business, no? Sorry, I was under the impression that he's talking about the Michelin rating people showing up and telling them how good or bad his food is rather than simply visiting and writing a guide which contains his restaurant. I can understand the pressure of being on the list and maintaining one's position, but there's…

English may not be his native language and I'm just speculating. To me, it read more about the pressures exerted and the desire to not have to conform to an ideal presented by people who aren't members of the same culture. I'm not sure that qualifies as xenophobic, or even a bad thing. Should a Mexican restaurant be pressured into serving food that is more acceptable to the Canadian palate? (Pressured, not forced.) F…

No. 'Foreigners' very likely simply means 'foreigners' here. Japanese society is incredibly xenophobic and has quite well-known problems with casual, socially accepted racism.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2015/11/01/issues/tac...

(Just a single example - but quick googling should you countless more from reputable sources)

Re: French chef asks to be stripped of three Michelin stars

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I find it odd that he prefers losing all three stars over losing only one star. If he's willing to lose stars, can't he just ignore Michelin and simply cook the way he wants? I'm reminded of Ron Blaauw, a Dutch 2-star chef who was also tired of the pressure of his 2-star fine-dining restaurant (not sure if it was Michelin or just the kind of restaurant), so he started his more informal "Gastrobar" for just a quick bi…

There are several comments in this discussion talking about you would want to lose all stars instead of just one. If you lose one star, it will sound like the quality has changed for the worst. Losing all them sounds more like being outside the system.

Re: French chef asks to be stripped of three Michelin stars

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I find it odd that he prefers losing all three stars over losing only one star. If he's willing to lose stars, can't he just ignore Michelin and simply cook the way he wants? I'm reminded of Ron Blaauw, a Dutch 2-star chef who was also tired of the pressure of his 2-star fine-dining restaurant (not sure if it was Michelin or just the kind of restaurant), so he started his more informal "Gastrobar" for just a quick bi…

It seems that cheffing is a lot about acting "rebellious" (food rebel revolutionizing how apples are served) and creating big theatre and drama.

Re: French chef asks to be stripped of three Michelin stars

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I find it odd that he prefers losing all three stars over losing only one star. If he's willing to lose stars, can't he just ignore Michelin and simply cook the way he wants? I'm reminded of Ron Blaauw, a Dutch 2-star chef who was also tired of the pressure of his 2-star fine-dining restaurant (not sure if it was Michelin or just the kind of restaurant), so he started his more informal "Gastrobar" for just a quick bi…

There are several comments in this discussion talking about you would want to lose all stars instead of just one. If you lose one star, it will sound like the quality has changed for the worst. Losing all them sounds more like being outside the system.

Even if you've got only one or two stars, you're still regarded as an extraordinarily good restaurant.

A do understand how receiving a Michelin star can bring in different clientele that changes the atmosphere of the restaurant for the worse.

Re: French chef asks to be stripped of three Michelin stars

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The fate of Benoit Violier (French-Swiss chef that took his own life after being awarded his third Michelin star in 2016) come to mind in this context: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/01/benoit-violier...

Referenced in the article as well.

Re: French chef asks to be stripped of three Michelin stars

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post #66

I find it odd that he prefers losing all three stars over losing only one star. If he's willing to lose stars, can't he just ignore Michelin and simply cook the way he wants? I'm reminded of Ron Blaauw, a Dutch 2-star chef who was also tired of the pressure of his 2-star fine-dining restaurant (not sure if it was Michelin or just the kind of restaurant), so he started his more informal "Gastrobar" for just a quick bi…

If he just continues on and loses one or more stars then, no matter how public he is about the restaurant's change of direction, it will be widely regarded as a demotion. Opening a second, more informal eatery might not appeal to him for any number of valid reasons.

It seems reasonably clear that the ongoing cost in terms of anxiety and, to some extent, the freedom to change or loosen up things is simply not worth the accolade to him anymore. The article states: "because of the huge pressure of being judged on every dish he serves... and the anxiety over Michelin’s anonymous food judges, who could arrive at his restaurant at any moment... “You’re inspected two or three times a year, you never know when. Every meal that goes out could be inspected. That means that, every day, one of the 500 meals that leaves the kitchen could be judged. “Maybe I will be less famous but I accept that,” he said, adding that he would continue to cook excellent local produce “without wondering whether my creations will appeal to Michelin’s inspectors”."

So, he's quitting on his own terms. Assuming it's not a rash decision borne from burn-out or some temporary phase or state of mind then I think it's admirable.

Re: French chef asks to be stripped of three Michelin stars

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French speaker here. He's essentially saying: "At 46 years of age, I want to run my business the same as before (with thanks to Michelin for the acclaim they have afforded us) but without the pressure of the three stars." Totally get it, and totally agree. The meaning I take from the video: "Let us do our best without worrying about being judged every second of every day." Must be exhausting to be in that situation.…

My first inclination is "Why doesn't he just ignore Michelin" but then I realize that a poor ranking in Michelin could do real damage to his business beyond the segment of his guests that is aware of Michelin ratings. Thanks for the translation by the way.

Because it would be much easier to ignore the pressure put by random and secret food inspections if those inspections don't even exist at all. To get and keep 3 stars over more than 10 years require to be overconscious, so even if he wants to ignore the ranking he might not be able to.
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