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The Premium Mediocre Life of Maya Millenial

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Re: The Premium Mediocre Life of Maya Millenial

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that's the basic point: premium mediocre represents the belief that three weeks in Europe is the right choice when you're young and near broke. It's this part of the millenial value set (whatever their economic prospects) that starkly contrasts them from past generations.

Certainly if you expect to have good economic prospects. I don't think it's a new phenomenon either; "Europe on $5 a day" was the classic Boomer travel book. https://www.smartertravel.com/2017/06/19/56-years-later-euro...

"Certainly if you expect to have good economic prospects."

But I think the idea is that maybe this is true even if you expect to have _bad_ economic prospects. If I worry that the future is grim no matter what I may just say "screw it, I'm having my fun. We all wind up in the dirt anyway".

Traditionally we're told we should have expensive thing x ["homeownership", "retirement account", "family with kids in private school", "beautiful objects"] but if x is impossible I'll go with y ["traveling around Europe", "nice musical instrument", "bit more hedonism than I might have otherwise", "nice craft beer and dinner"], because I might as well spend my money on a good that's attainable. If you can save up a down payment for a home in only 20 years then why the hell bother? Hell, you might wind up buying a house just to have flood insurance jump 10,000% because the seas are rising.

*http://money.cnn.com/gallery/real_estate/2017/06/07/how-long...

Put in other words - for the person who has no prospect of ever owning a home, why should they save for a down payment instead of using it in some other way?

Of course, there is a continuum and plenty of folks are threadbare in retirement and regret not saving. I just think there are probably also plenty of folks who:

• saved and lost it because of political or economic instability (note the examples I cited), wishing they'd just had fun with the money.

• saved and had money to spend while their bodies rotted away so it didn't do them any good.

• didn't save and lived an austere life in their later years but figured it was worthwhile.

• died. •• We don't all make it to 75+. Once I hit my thirties I was startled as more of my friends and acquaintances started dying. I'm more willing to spend money on travel, friends, etc. as a result.

but we hear their stories less often. I don't know whether this is because they occur less often.

I'm not endorsing completely throwing away the idea of saving but I can see how when someone finally gets the chance to do what they want they figure they'll go for it because the goals we're ostensibly supposed to strive for are never gonna happen.

Also, we see everything through the lens of our own experience and my own is substantially biased by having spent a lot of time in the bay and LA not getting anywhere (admittedly my skillset was smaller then), then striking up a conversation over the pronunciation of JSON with a random guy in a pub in Dublin during the aforementioned farting around Europe and getting an interview out of it and now having a decent job and over a month off a year that I'm not guilted for using in a city where I might reasonably expect to own a home within the next couple years, not the next couple decades. YMMV.

Re: The Premium Mediocre Life of Maya Millenial

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the rate of downward mobility among my young, bourgeoisie 20-somethings friends in NYC is shocking i dunno, i'd argue these people aren't downwardly mobile because they were never upper middle class to begin with (bourgeoisie). if you have no saved money and your family can't just straight up give you money to live if you lose your job, you're lower to lower middle at best. better luck next time, etc. and if the pa…

Your post hits the nail on the head, but complicates things more than needed. The whole idea of "middle class" is a fiction that supports the behaviours discussed in the article. In the real world, it doesn't actually exist in any meaningful way. You're either working class or you're not. If you can walk away from your job today and never look back, congrats! You're not working class. But for everyone else, you're st…

I disagree. While the terms "lower middle class" and "upper middle class" are perhaps unnecessary, the term "middle class" itself is an important economic (and socioeconomic) distinction, although its exact definition is highly contentious.

Here are my own definitions (it's important to note that sometimes people don't fit neatly into a single category):

Lower Class (also called the Working Class, or the Working Poor): They live paycheck-to-paycheck, usually at job(s) that have low pay, shifting schedules, no benefits, low job security and no possibility for long-term career-building. They own very few assets, if any, and rent/borrow most things. They are usually one medical emergency away from financial ruin (at least in the USA). They are too worried about tomorrow and the next week to worry about further into the future.

Middle Class: These people have fairly stable jobs that have decent pay and benefits. They often build careers around those jobs and it becomes part of their identity, which can be seen in the way they think of themselves and introduce themselves to others (e.g. "I'm an accountant"). They own or make payments towards owning core assets such as house. They sometimes own small businesses. If they lose their jobs, they can use their skills and connections to find another, but it can take some time. They tend to plan and save for the future, at least passively (e.g. 401k accounts).

Upper Class: The upper class is defined primarily by wealth. Even when upper class folks don't have "fuck you money", their wealth enables them levels of comfort that can only be dreamed of by the Lower Class, and is looked up to by the Middle Class. Work tends to be optional for most, and tends to be about prestige and social class rather than a necessity. When they lose their jobs, it's mostly because of corporate politics or some sort of scandal, and they can trivially find another job using their connections (usually an email or phone call is sufficient).

Re: The Premium Mediocre Life of Maya Millenial

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post #39
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This is a very long article about something that has been known for a very long time: middle class existential angst.

I googled a bit but couldn't find any analysis of middle class existential angst. Care to link me to something?

A couple reference points, among many, could be the 1968 film "The Swimmer" or the 1999 film "American Beauty". It's probably best expressed through fiction: reading factual descriptions may prove useless.

It's an American thing to idolize the middle class, and it's a human thing to be deeply discontented with what you have idolized, so really you have a lot of choices in the genre.

Re: The Premium Mediocre Life of Maya Millenial

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> When I tell them I made a bit of money investing, they think stocks, not blockchains. I’m not even going to try explaining bitcoin to them. They don’t need the aggravation. So many questions: 1) Why would any human think blockchains and not stocks when you talk about investing? 2) Humans shouldn't be investing in Bitcoin unless they have money that is 100% disposable (which, judging by the tone of your blog, you do…

Anecdata... I went to the local bar alone recently because I had to get out of the house for a contractor to do some stuff on the weekend. As I sat and had a couple of beers, I listened to the bartender, an Uber driver, and an aesthetician discuss ICOs, Bitcoin, and altcoins (Eth) for an hour. They had no idea what it was and I didn't really have much interest in bursting their bubble... they were all convinced they…

When your cabbie/bartender is telling you about ICOs...

That's a line from 1929, when a financier (Bernard Baruch?) made a similar comment, and decided it was time to bail.

Re: The Premium Mediocre Life of Maya Millenial

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there are too many digressions and obscure inside-references in this essay, but this cuts to the heart of the matter: "[Premium mediocre] is an economic and cultural rearguard action by young people launched into life from the old middle class, but not quite equipped to stay there, and trying to engineer a face-saving soft landing…somewhere." i'm 24 and while i can see the humor and hyperbole in this article, its als…

    should just shut up and get mine.
Shutting up and getting yours isn't at odds with doing things the "right" way, if you allow for a decade or two of phase shift.

When you are on an airplane, you put on your oxygen mask first, then you assist others.

For about a decade, I despised Bill Gates. Fast forward to today, and he now gives away far, far more money to social causes than I will ever earn in my entire life.

Re: The Premium Mediocre Life of Maya Millenial

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post #39
post #3

This is a very long article about something that has been known for a very long time: middle class existential angst.

I googled a bit but couldn't find any analysis of middle class existential angst. Care to link me to something?

Try Richard Yates' Revolutionary Road (1961).

It reads almost like it could have been written today. Definitely deserves to be more popular.

Re: The Premium Mediocre Life of Maya Millenial

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post #47

I'm having a hard time distinguishing "premium mediocre" from "bourgeois" as the term is applied to tastes and preferences. As with so many other neologisms, I think this concept is already amply covered in English's huge vocabulary.

premium mediocre has the aspiration for money, but none of the money. Bourgeoisie had the aspiration for taste and finer disposition, but they actually have the money. The money is the difference, Premium Mediocre have none.

So premium mediocre is chipotle and bourgeoisie is the latin fusion place that charges 25 bucks for entrees?

Re: The Premium Mediocre Life of Maya Millenial

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> When I tell them I made a bit of money investing, they think stocks, not blockchains. I’m not even going to try explaining bitcoin to them. They don’t need the aggravation. So many questions: 1) Why would any human think blockchains and not stocks when you talk about investing? 2) Humans shouldn't be investing in Bitcoin unless they have money that is 100% disposable (which, judging by the tone of your blog, you do…

> Why would any human think blockchains and not stocks when you talk about investing? Good question. What I've seen enough millenials to slightly alarm me is that they don't think stocks or blockchains but multi-level marketing schemes. Are they more susceptible to being drawn into these than any other cohort? I'd guess probably not (I remember seeing Amway jugs in my parents' garage as a kid), but with social media…

> Are they more susceptible to being drawn into these than any other cohort?

There's a weird form of mysticism in the modern economy today. "Follow this secret method to make a million dollars."

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