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As much as I like .NET, the truth is that they are loosing mindshare among new generations. "Microsoft’s Open Source Developer Journey" https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Visual-Studio/Live-2017/Key...
Interestingly, I'm seeing VS Code alot these days amongst "new generation" developers.
As someone confused what this was about, it seems: >Oracle said this week it plans to transfer management of the Java EE project to an open-source foundation, such as Apache or Eclipse. (Aug 19) https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/oracle-want...
So Oracle fired off almost all the rest of the Solaris engineers, they are moving Java out of house, what's left from the original Sun purchase? SPARC? I see they still sell SPARC servers, but without confirmation from someone that they've somehow kept competitive with Intel (which they were having problems doing over a decade ago), I'm wondering if this is just a cash grab from people that don't know what they're ge…
By this Oracle now admits in times of Cloud, docker containers etc Java EE is relic of past and not of much relevance. Surprisingly though, Spring with its habit of adding a thick layer of crap over any technology is doing okay and lot of people seem to like it.
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So Oracle fired off almost all the rest of the Solaris engineers, they are moving Java out of house, what's left from the original Sun purchase? SPARC? I see they still sell SPARC servers, but without confirmation from someone that they've somehow kept competitive with Intel (which they were having problems doing over a decade ago), I'm wondering if this is just a cash grab from people that don't know what they're ge…
Java EE != Java
Not a huge surprise because Oracle is technology's Donald Trump. Depend on anything of theirs at your/your company's own peril.
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> Java is super popular in the open source and academic communities Don't forget the business community. To a first order approximation, most programmers who get paid to write code work in either C#/.NET or Java. Everything else is a relatively small minority of paid development work.
Java is the 21st century COBOL. And no, I mean it as a compliment. It takes a colossal amount of effort to become a de facto standard.
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On C# having had an incomplete ECMA specification always lagging behind and source code made available under an obscure, non- open-source, legally tainting license acting as a boobytrap for anything commercial DOES NOT count as open . Even now they are being disingenuous about license changes, witness for example the leadership of this project changing license from Apache 2.0 to MIT and being obtuse about the licensi…
> OpenJDK happened on May 8, 2007, that's 10 years ago and you've got companies like Red Hat and IBM collaborating on it. By comparison .NET Core was released 2016, so that's 9 years later. You're comparing unequal things. OpenJDK was a community effort, while .NET Core is maintained primarily by Microsoft themselves. The correct comparison would be to .NET's community based alternative, which is Mono. Mono in turn h…
Mono is owned by Ximian, which is now a subsidiary of...Microsoft. This creates the rather odd situation where there are three implementations of .NET, but Microsoft controls all of them.
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J2EE was designed for an era when big, monolithic entities were creating most of the production-grade software out there, SMP hardware was extremely expensive and capital-intensive, and open source software was largely considered a joke by those with the buying decisions. It made sense to try to target large entities that have developed decades of abstractions supposedly meant to reflect how complex (perhaps complect…
" what skilled, talented developers want to stake their careers working on software used only by a community that is in a multi-decade crisis?" What multi-decade crisis are you talking about? Not everyone is hipster afraid to learn abstractions or unable to comprehend them. There is learning curve to J2EE and especially early versions were hard to learn, but willingness or ability to learn is not exactly mark of no-t…
Not a huge surprise because Oracle is technology's Donald Trump. Depend on anything of theirs at your/your company's own peril.
- Loses easy wins, blames everybody else - Attacks minorities who point out her people are abusers - 'Screws up everything with hubris' to quote Colin Powell
What did I miss?
As someone confused what this was about, it seems: >Oracle said this week it plans to transfer management of the Java EE project to an open-source foundation, such as Apache or Eclipse. (Aug 19) https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/oracle-want...
So Oracle fired off almost all the rest of the Solaris engineers, they are moving Java out of house, what's left from the original Sun purchase? SPARC? I see they still sell SPARC servers, but without confirmation from someone that they've somehow kept competitive with Intel (which they were having problems doing over a decade ago), I'm wondering if this is just a cash grab from people that don't know what they're ge…
Acquiring all the rest of the Sun stuff (SPARC, Solaris, Java, StarOffice, VirtualBox, etc) was a side-effect of the MySQL acquisition.