Can somebody say something about what Treble means for other open source OS for phones, e.g. Sailfish? Might it be possible to use the vendor provided Treble core for other OSs?
Yes. The question is access and licencing.
Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed
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Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed
#72After my Pixel updated recently to Oreo, being frustrated by a constant notification for Twilight (a red-tinting background app) and starting to search on google for a solution -- I discovered quite a lot of people have been asking 'how to suppress notifications on oreo' recently. FWIW you can control the notification snooze timeout, but you're going to need Tasker [1] (or similar). Interestingly I evidently bought t…
Were you aware that Android has built-in tinting capability? It's under Display > Night Light. There's a quick tile for it too.
That's only available on 7.0+ phones with hardware support (currently I think only the pixels?)
Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed
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#74This was particularly interesting:
>Google shared a fun statistic at I/O 2017: The company expects one-third of Android devices shipped in 2017 to cost under $100.
Even more so considering that the US is the 2nd largest market for phones of that price point.
> While the long term goal is to tackle the 5 billion users without internet access, immediately this helps the US market too. Google says the US will be the second most popular market for these sub-$100 phones.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thank you for staying level-headed here. This is indeed a gray area question, and it's worth having a debate over. No one is clearly in the right.
Well, the legal answer clearly places one side in the right (the user has the right to modify websites that are shown on their system however they wish to, and the right to circumvent all measures on that site, as in the countless ABP vs. ... cases has been ruled). The historical answer does the same, as browsers were explicitly designated User Agents, as their whole purpose is to act in the name of the user, and ful…
Do you have some legal references to this? Curious. The site also has the legal right to refuse to serve you content, of course.
Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed
#76The third set of pictures on page 4 shows a "Rotate" notification that is 47 years old. A timestamp must have been set to zero somewhere...
Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of YouTube content isn't music though. Why are they so user hostile - e.g. why can't I listen to talks/podcasters in the background while browsing the internet?
Try Firefox for Android - it allows background nedia streaming, and even puts controls in the notification drawer. It also allows adblocking, extensions, has the amazing reader mode which makes the most unusable websites readable again. The current version 55 is a little slower than Chrome on my 3 year old phone, but performance in the past few major versions has definitely improved. The nighty developer build of Fir…
Another reason to use Firefox is to resist the monoculture of just one dominating browser, that's also made by the same company that makes the most common mobile OS and a lot of dominating web services, like Youtube. Allo for the web still only works in Chrome, because Google know they can get away with it.
Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed
#78After my Pixel updated recently to Oreo, being frustrated by a constant notification for Twilight (a red-tinting background app) and starting to search on google for a solution -- I discovered quite a lot of people have been asking 'how to suppress notifications on oreo' recently. FWIW you can control the notification snooze timeout, but you're going to need Tasker [1] (or similar). Interestingly I evidently bought t…
Were you aware that Android has built-in tinting capability? It's under Display > Night Light. There's a quick tile for it too.
That is only available on the Pixels, not even on the Nexus 5X (which has similar hardware for that).
Since 8.0, it is impossible to get any kind of night light on the Nexus 5X without a custom rom.
Re: Android 8.0 Oreo, thoroughly reviewed
#79After my Pixel updated recently to Oreo, being frustrated by a constant notification for Twilight (a red-tinting background app) and starting to search on google for a solution -- I discovered quite a lot of people have been asking 'how to suppress notifications on oreo' recently. FWIW you can control the notification snooze timeout, but you're going to need Tasker [1] (or similar). Interestingly I evidently bought t…
In the middle of updating my Pixel XL, use Twilight daily. Will it still work after the update?
I am using the built-in "Adaptive brightness" with my Pixel XL and have also used twilight, f.lux (on a rooted Nexus 6). I would say to just go with "Adaptive brightness." It has the least issues overall and definitely won't be a bother in terms of persistent background notifications or anything else, especially with the new Android.
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#80Perhaps slightly off-topic, but what are the best hardware/carrier options in USA currently if you want vanilla Oreo that updates reliably instead of a custom ROM (w/ no carrier or third-party overlays and skins)?