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Re: Poland's oldest university denies Google's right to patent Polish coding concept

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Post by dTal »

rdtsc wrote: post #16
nxc18 wrote: post #5

Wow, fuck Google. They really should consider re-adopting "Don't be evil" for PR proposes at the very least. (This isn't too say other companies don't pull the same shit; fuck them all just as much)

There is a difference, other companies don't bother making moralistic claims about good and evil in their PR. Google did, so I think it is fair criticize it according to the standards it set itself up with.

Call me radical, but I think "don't be evil" is a standard we should ideally hold all companies to, whatever their PR says.

It shouldn't really be a high bar!

Re: Poland's oldest university denies Google's right to patent Polish coding concept

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Post by Sylphine »

gaius wrote: post #69
Sylphine wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More than 90 % of its revenue comes from ads so I don't see a way they would be affected. The only valuable brands are Youtube and the search engine(android could even operate as a nonprofit funded by Google). Progress but hardly a "win".

Make it spin off YouTube, Maps/Earth, Translate, its public cloud, GMail etc etc.

Yes but most of those services gain traction from the search engine. Google2 could quickly use FOSS code to integrate similar products to those that they would lose and even if they would be a MVP that would still do the trick. See what I mean ?

Re: Poland's oldest university denies Google's right to patent Polish coding concept

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Post by beautifulfreak »

jhall1468 wrote: post #36
evanb wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there's prior art, what's the difference if a system is first to file or first to invent?

Because prior art is a defensive patent invalidation or prevention technique. If Google doesn't file this patent a troll will, and they will aggressively sue companies (Google included). Google is doing what it has to to protect itself. Blame the system.

They could have cc'd Jarek Duda, and avoided the appearance of pulling a fast one on the real inventor, putting their name on someone else's homework. It just looks sleazy.

Re: Poland's oldest university denies Google's right to patent Polish coding concept

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Post by gaius »

Sylphine wrote: post #72
gaius wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Make it spin off YouTube, Maps/Earth, Translate, its public cloud, GMail etc etc.

Yes but most of those services gain traction from the search engine. Google2 could quickly use FOSS code to integrate similar products to those that they would lose and even if they would be a MVP that would still do the trick. See what I mean ?

Its the level of integration thats the problem, the way they can leverage dominant positions in markets A, B and C to conquer market D.

Re: Poland's oldest university denies Google's right to patent Polish coding concept

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Post by kpil »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #47
kpil wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...but ffs! The reason is that Google is encouraging their employees to file patents, just as everybody else, since the patent system in regards to software patents is really just a pissing contest - they need patents to hit each other in the heads with, and it doesn't matter if it's obvious implementations of things that people with a common sense will figure out in 10 minutes. In this case it took a while to figure…

But Google doesn't do that. That's worth something, right? It's easy to take the moral high ground, but I wanted to point out how it looks to the quiet objective people reading.

Google doesn't do what?

Re: Poland's oldest university denies Google's right to patent Polish coding concept

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Post by alecco »

#3 168 points 7h IOCCC Flight Simulator

#72 280 points 6h Poland's oldest university denies Google's right to patent Polish coding concept

(had to scroll to middle of 3rd page)

(and it's #1 on Algolia 24hs top)

Makes sense, perfectly explainable.

Re: Poland's oldest university denies Google's right to patent Polish coding concept

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Post by qu4z-2 »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #47
kpil wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...but ffs! The reason is that Google is encouraging their employees to file patents, just as everybody else, since the patent system in regards to software patents is really just a pissing contest - they need patents to hit each other in the heads with, and it doesn't matter if it's obvious implementations of things that people with a common sense will figure out in 10 minutes. In this case it took a while to figure…

But Google doesn't do that. That's worth something, right? It's easy to take the moral high ground, but I wanted to point out how it looks to the quiet objective people reading.

My experience with Google is that the claim should probably be "Google doesn't do that at the moment".

Re: Poland's oldest university denies Google's right to patent Polish coding concept

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Post by Jerry2 »

alecco wrote: post #76

#3 168 points 7h IOCCC Flight Simulator #72 280 points 6h Poland's oldest university denies Google 's right to patent Polish coding concept (had to scroll to middle of 3rd page) (and it's #1 on Algolia 24hs top) Makes sense, perfectly explainable.

Any story that puts Google in bad light is heavily censored on HN.

Re: Poland's oldest university denies Google's right to patent Polish coding concept

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Post by sysdyne »

jacquesm wrote: post #70
agsamek wrote: post #59

This post had 251 points in two hours. It was no 1 post for some time and now it was downgraded to 42ND position in the list. 2 hours after posting with 251points. How is it possible????

Google employees flagging it en masse.

This. Read some interesting comments that I agreed with only to see them flagged after some time. Great work Gogglers. You "showed us" who is boss.

Re: Poland's oldest university denies Google's right to patent Polish coding concept

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Post by sysdyne »

alecco wrote: post #76

#3 168 points 7h IOCCC Flight Simulator #72 280 points 6h Poland's oldest university denies Google 's right to patent Polish coding concept (had to scroll to middle of 3rd page) (and it's #1 on Algolia 24hs top) Makes sense, perfectly explainable.

They should just change their name to Umbrella Corp. http://residentevil.wikia.com/wiki/Umbrella_Corporation
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