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Launch HN: Muzmatch (YC S17) – A place where 400M single Muslims can meet

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Re: Launch HN: Muzmatch (YC S17) – A place where 400M single Muslims can meet

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Post by Mikeb85 »

bathtub wrote: post #58
dang wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of apps for Christians, as for all other kinds of specialized markets. When you say 'white Christians' you're changing the subject in a particularly trollish way. Please don't comment like that here.

Dear Dang, > When you say 'white Christians' you're changing the subject in a particularly trollish wa No, it is not trollish, not at all. It's exactly what they are doing and IDK what is different with my example. 'Religion' is also often used as a polite way to target ethnicity. Which is also reflected in my example (and exaggerated to make it clear). Dang, I think I brought some valid points and I would be happy t…

There's no such thing as 'mixed' marriages for Muslims. Muslim women may only marry Muslim men, and Muslim men must raise their children as Muslims.

Also, devout Christians do the same. Right or wrong, until the whole world is athiest, this won't change.

Re: Launch HN: Muzmatch (YC S17) – A place where 400M single Muslims can meet

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Post by philsnow »

bathtub wrote: post #49
ramphastidae wrote: post #45

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> Why do you want to keep people from spedific religions stick together? It's for a society always better if groups mix instead of this ghettoization. I know that still many try to stay with their folks which is ok but why to enforce it? They are not forcing anyone to do anything. They are giving people an option. If a Muslim wants to marry another Muslim, and this helps them accomplish that better than Tinder or any…

As I wrote: It strengthens and enforces typical stereotypes which don't make life easier for the target demo.

this argument might hold water if there weren't a preexisting plethora of other dating sites/apps that cater to all kinds of other groups.

this app/site is a safe ("halal") place for a _self-selecting_ group to congregate. how can you possibly have an issue with that? the people who explicitly want to find a muslim spouse can use this site, the people who don't particularly care if their spouse is muslim will use some other one.

if you want to build that site (for people specifically trying to find a spouse instead of trying to have fun, but not explicitly for muslims), just do it and quit shitting on this site.

Re: Launch HN: Muzmatch (YC S17) – A place where 400M single Muslims can meet

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Post by bogomipz »

brod_ie wrote: post #46
JessOpearlo wrote: post #2

How many marriages have happened through your app our of interest?

We've had 600 confirmed weddings and 6,000 couples leave after finding each other within the app We think the former is likely higher too as many choose to keep it private

So if people leave after finding each other but don't get married wouldn't that technically be dating?

Re: Launch HN: Muzmatch (YC S17) – A place where 400M single Muslims can meet

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Post by gdilla »

anindha wrote: post #28
navalsaini wrote: post #20

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Different dating apps cater to different mindsets towards dating. Some ban pictures in favor of words; while others only work if you have great pictures; then others want one to mention their annual income ranges.

The groups on Facebook are very different but it still works. You should be able to build most things on top of the platform. Flickr was the social network for photographers but most photographers post on Facebook now.

allowing you to connect via FB and sign up for 3rd party services is essentially that. it's questionable how much integration with FB is valuable, considering people are justifiably wary about what they want to do publicly and privately, and FB privacy settings can change and are confusing to many.

Re: Launch HN: Muzmatch (YC S17) – A place where 400M single Muslims can meet

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Post by nolepointer »

bathtub wrote: post #51
colmvp wrote: post #37

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If you made an app just for white Christians, as a non-white non-Christian I'd be fine with it because it saves me from having to a) look at their profile, b) potentially get matched up with them, and c) waste my time. Chances are they want someone who shares a lot of their same beliefs and more importantly want someone faithful to God. Like it or not, people have preferences. A few year ago, I joined Match. You know…

What you experienced isn't right as well. That people express racial preferences on dating sites is just wrong. Dating providers should hinder such behavior.

Who are you to say that? People have preferences, get over it.

Re: Launch HN: Muzmatch (YC S17) – A place where 400M single Muslims can meet

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Post by landon32 »

anindha wrote: post #28
navalsaini wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Different dating apps cater to different mindsets towards dating. Some ban pictures in favor of words; while others only work if you have great pictures; then others want one to mention their annual income ranges.

The groups on Facebook are very different but it still works. You should be able to build most things on top of the platform. Flickr was the social network for photographers but most photographers post on Facebook now.

I think the product's design is pretty different though. If you want only text as well as photo-centric options, that's hard to design. Also, if you want people to spend 2 minutes reading a profile before deciding if it's someone they want to "like" or message, that use case needs to be designed very differently than a use case where a user wants to decide in 3 seconds if the other person is cute enough to "like".

You might be right though, it might consolidate in the future if people figure out really good interfaces that make it work well for many use cases.

Re: Launch HN: Muzmatch (YC S17) – A place where 400M single Muslims can meet

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Post by komali2 »

bathtub wrote: post #58
dang wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of apps for Christians, as for all other kinds of specialized markets. When you say 'white Christians' you're changing the subject in a particularly trollish way. Please don't comment like that here.

Dear Dang, > When you say 'white Christians' you're changing the subject in a particularly trollish wa No, it is not trollish, not at all. It's exactly what they are doing and IDK what is different with my example. 'Religion' is also often used as a polite way to target ethnicity. Which is also reflected in my example (and exaggerated to make it clear). Dang, I think I brought some valid points and I would be happy t…

Should "Farmers only" dating apps also be banned?

What about features in an app that allow users to filter profiles of potential mates by their religion? Or age? Or gender?

I think I understand where you're coming from - that the app contributes to cultural divisiveness - but I don't think I like the implication, which to me is "one is not allowed to seek ways of finding others of a similar culture." If you don't allow projects to be created that allow people to find those similar to them, you are taking away their ability to do so.

Re: Launch HN: Muzmatch (YC S17) – A place where 400M single Muslims can meet

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Post by komali2 »

bathtub wrote: post #51
colmvp wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you made an app just for white Christians, as a non-white non-Christian I'd be fine with it because it saves me from having to a) look at their profile, b) potentially get matched up with them, and c) waste my time. Chances are they want someone who shares a lot of their same beliefs and more importantly want someone faithful to God. Like it or not, people have preferences. A few year ago, I joined Match. You know…

What you experienced isn't right as well. That people express racial preferences on dating sites is just wrong. Dating providers should hinder such behavior.

Is it different from people expressing gender preferences? What about age? What about hobbies?

Re: Launch HN: Muzmatch (YC S17) – A place where 400M single Muslims can meet

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Post by tboyd47 »

brod_ie wrote: post #52
tboyd47 wrote: post #35

My wife is a user of this app (she has used to to help her sisters look for husbands) and so far I think it's a good product. You were wise to include the wali/chaperone option because that is clearly a key feature for many sisters. She always mentions how she's puzzled over the "Always pray / sometimes pray / never pray" options under religious practice. Can you explain your thought process in coming up with those o…

Very happy to hear that and thank you Absolutely it's a challenge and we're aiming to be as inclusive as possible Interesting, if you email me (ryan@muzmatch.com) I can look into this further for you Thanks again

Thanks. I think she's taking a break from the searching for now but I'll save your email address in case it happens again.

Re: Launch HN: Muzmatch (YC S17) – A place where 400M single Muslims can meet

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Post by bathtub »

komali2 wrote: post #77
bathtub wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dear Dang, > When you say 'white Christians' you're changing the subject in a particularly trollish wa No, it is not trollish, not at all. It's exactly what they are doing and IDK what is different with my example. 'Religion' is also often used as a polite way to target ethnicity. Which is also reflected in my example (and exaggerated to make it clear). Dang, I think I brought some valid points and I would be happy t…

Should "Farmers only" dating apps also be banned? What about features in an app that allow users to filter profiles of potential mates by their religion? Or age? Or gender ? I think I understand where you're coming from - that the app contributes to cultural divisiveness - but I don't think I like the implication, which to me is "one is not allowed to seek ways of finding others of a similar culture." If you don't al…

> that allow people to find those similar to them, you are taking away their ability to do so

This is what I want. That people find their SO on a natural and unexpected way and not by sticking to their roots and setting the right filter in their dating app. Do you think Americans would be Americans today if hundreds years ago all the immigrants stayed with their groups? And again I use religion and ethnicity here equally since most of these platform do this implicitely too.

A society can only evolve and develop in a healthy way if groups mix. There are already so many barriers which hinder us to interact with others. Just say no to rules from the last century.

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