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Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by thriftwy »

chx wrote: post #66

Microsoft is playing a fantastic Linux game with putting Linux userspace on the Windows desktop where drivers and UI are far better than the Linux drivers and UI and putting SQL Server on Linux server where the Linux kernel is much stronger. They know their strengths and weaknesses and not afraid to play to them. Here's my writeup on setting up Windows 10 as a long, long time Linux user https://github.com/chx/chx.git…

Too bad that Windows 10 barely usable on itself.

Every application looks different (yes they used to blame Linux/X11 on that one). It has two control panels (or three maybe), two web browsers shipped with it.

Takes more than a minute to boot on a new and pretty formidable laptop. This is the fresh factory install.

Can freeze the desktop while apparently doing something under the hood (installing updates? scanning malware? summoning the devil?), without any indication as to why, and not come back in five minutes.

Seriously considering overwriting it with Ubuntu even when it's aimed for a non-technical user.

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by tokenizerrr »

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Hmm, I think HN needs a way to report either spam messages or users - this guy was created 6 mins ago, has two comments, both spam

There is. You click on the "X minutes ago" link, then click flag. The comments are already dead by now, meaning no one sees them unless they have "showdead" turned on in their profile.

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by ekianjo »

chx wrote: post #66

Microsoft is playing a fantastic Linux game with putting Linux userspace on the Windows desktop where drivers and UI are far better than the Linux drivers and UI and putting SQL Server on Linux server where the Linux kernel is much stronger. They know their strengths and weaknesses and not afraid to play to them. Here's my writeup on setting up Windows 10 as a long, long time Linux user https://github.com/chx/chx.git…

Thats if you dont mind the hugely privacy invasive win10 environment to begin with.

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

#75

Post by tiernano »

thriftwy wrote: post #71
chx wrote: post #66

Microsoft is playing a fantastic Linux game with putting Linux userspace on the Windows desktop where drivers and UI are far better than the Linux drivers and UI and putting SQL Server on Linux server where the Linux kernel is much stronger. They know their strengths and weaknesses and not afraid to play to them. Here's my writeup on setting up Windows 10 as a long, long time Linux user https://github.com/chx/chx.git…

Too bad that Windows 10 barely usable on itself. Every application looks different (yes they used to blame Linux/X11 on that one). It has two control panels (or three maybe), two web browsers shipped with it. Takes more than a minute to boot on a new and pretty formidable laptop. This is the fresh factory install. Can freeze the desktop while apparently doing something under the hood (installing updates? scanning mal…

just curious: you say "new, factory fresh install"... is this factory fresh, as in "OEM" install, or your own install? if its OEM, could it be whatever crap was installed? third party antivirus, etc? i have Win10 installed on a Surface Book, and, other them me installing stuff i shouldent, the machine works well... i did have to uninstall corporate AV (the standard MS one works just as well... and its cheaper than the corporate one...) but other than that, as long as i dont install "stupid" stuff (other AV, any other crap that fecks with the system) all is good...

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by peter_retief »

zvrba wrote: post #68
peter_retief wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You offer a few examples of research developed my Microsoft but don't mention the destruction of an entire generation of innovation by deliberate barrier of entry by obfuscation and theft of intellectual property. The history of Microsoft is well known I don't need to recite what most people already know

What matters is now , not history. History is a bad predictor of future behavior (remember Google's "don't be evil"?)

What else do we have beside history?

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

#77

Post by sz4kerto »

thriftwy wrote: post #71
chx wrote: post #66

Microsoft is playing a fantastic Linux game with putting Linux userspace on the Windows desktop where drivers and UI are far better than the Linux drivers and UI and putting SQL Server on Linux server where the Linux kernel is much stronger. They know their strengths and weaknesses and not afraid to play to them. Here's my writeup on setting up Windows 10 as a long, long time Linux user https://github.com/chx/chx.git…

Too bad that Windows 10 barely usable on itself. Every application looks different (yes they used to blame Linux/X11 on that one). It has two control panels (or three maybe), two web browsers shipped with it. Takes more than a minute to boot on a new and pretty formidable laptop. This is the fresh factory install. Can freeze the desktop while apparently doing something under the hood (installing updates? scanning mal…

> Too bad that Windows 10 barely usable on itself.

I am always surprised to hear these statements. Hundreds of millions of people use W10, so it must be usable to some extent. I think it's also quite rare that the system stops for 5 minutes -- actually I've never seen that happening.

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by yulaow »

ekianjo wrote: post #73
chx wrote: post #66

Microsoft is playing a fantastic Linux game with putting Linux userspace on the Windows desktop where drivers and UI are far better than the Linux drivers and UI and putting SQL Server on Linux server where the Linux kernel is much stronger. They know their strengths and weaknesses and not afraid to play to them. Here's my writeup on setting up Windows 10 as a long, long time Linux user https://github.com/chx/chx.git…

Thats if you dont mind the hugely privacy invasive win10 environment to begin with.

At least their new privacy settings are far more decent and complete than before... still hope they put it as opt-in instead of opt-out.

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by thwd »

sz4kerto wrote: post #77
thriftwy wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too bad that Windows 10 barely usable on itself. Every application looks different (yes they used to blame Linux/X11 on that one). It has two control panels (or three maybe), two web browsers shipped with it. Takes more than a minute to boot on a new and pretty formidable laptop. This is the fresh factory install. Can freeze the desktop while apparently doing something under the hood (installing updates? scanning mal…

> Too bad that Windows 10 barely usable on itself. I am always surprised to hear these statements. Hundreds of millions of people use W10, so it must be usable to some extent. I think it's also quite rare that the system stops for 5 minutes -- actually I've never seen that happening.

Argumentum ad populum; people just don't know better. Also, I doubt it's really hundreds of millions (of people, as opposed to installs).
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