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Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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It makes sense to start with iOS anyway, it's known for having great accessibility. A lot of people with accessibility needs use iOS for that reason.

Also rumours has it that Apple punishes you in the app store if you launch on Android first.

Sounds like FUD.

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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post #71

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Also rumours has it that Apple punishes you in the app store if you launch on Android first.

Sounds like FUD.

Its not. Developers of a famous podcast app have a number of long posts about this subject.

Also, Apple will ban your app if it has the word "android" anywhere in it.

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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Also on the technical side, the fact that Microsoft (Microsoft!) is releasing an iOS-only app, even if it comes from its research department, is maybe more shocking than its open-source releases of late. Who are you, Microsoft?!

It makes sense to start with iOS anyway, it's known for having great accessibility. A lot of people with accessibility needs use iOS for that reason.

For those interested in this: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/david-pogue-on-iphone-voiceov...

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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post #72
post #71

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Sounds like FUD.

Its not. Developers of a famous podcast app have a number of long posts about this subject. Also, Apple will ban your app if it has the word "android" anywhere in it.

> Developers of a famous podcast app have a number of long posts about this subject.

Do you have a link?

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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Also on the technical side, the fact that Microsoft (Microsoft!) is releasing an iOS-only app, even if it comes from its research department, is maybe more shocking than its open-source releases of late. Who are you, Microsoft?!

It makes sense to start with iOS anyway, it's known for having great accessibility. A lot of people with accessibility needs use iOS for that reason.

Yep. The iPhone has close to 100% market share among visually impaired users, because the accessibility features are so far in advance of Android. Google have been playing catch-up for years, but they just don't have the obsessive single-minded focus on UI that Apple are famous/notorious for.

When the iPhone originally launched, blindness charities were protesting that the touch screen interface would exclude visually impaired users. Less than a year later, the iPhone was being hailed as one of the greatest advances for visually impaired people since braille. Say what you like about Jobs and Ive, but they set the bar for accessibility.

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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Just curious, what is the reasoning behind such rollouts? Localization?

I really hope not. I'm not saying localization isn't important, but holding back an English app because of this is something I don't understand. A huge part of the world speaks English just fine. Release first, localize later if it's not possible right away. This is probably not the case here, but I hate it when devs forget that the US isn't the entire world that they're releasing their app to.

It's not about just language, of course. Otherwise "localization" would be called "translation". But a machine vision AI app isn't very useful if it cannot recognize local signs, brands, whatever, or pronounce them correctly. It would be simply bad publicity.

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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I really hope not. I'm not saying localization isn't important, but holding back an English app because of this is something I don't understand. A huge part of the world speaks English just fine. Release first, localize later if it's not possible right away. This is probably not the case here, but I hate it when devs forget that the US isn't the entire world that they're releasing their app to.

Also some of us don't even like to have the software localized. English is not my mother tongue and it's not an official language where I live either but I always set the system language to American English on my computers and devices.

Localization != translation. Especially when it's a machine vision app that's supposed to be useful locally.

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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I really hope not. I'm not saying localization isn't important, but holding back an English app because of this is something I don't understand. A huge part of the world speaks English just fine. Release first, localize later if it's not possible right away. This is probably not the case here, but I hate it when devs forget that the US isn't the entire world that they're releasing their app to.

Also some of us don't even like to have the software localized. English is not my mother tongue and it's not an official language where I live either but I always set the system language to American English on my computers and devices.

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Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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Because if you don't release an localized app you receive bad ratings that people never update.

Not a bad point, I hadn't thought about that, but you do still have the option of flushing all reviews with an update if they're primarily negative.

Also flushing people's memories? Seriously, marketing and PR is a human problem, stop treating it as an engineering one.
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