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Google is funding the creation of software that writes local news stories

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Re: Google is funding the creation of software that writes local news stories

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For me, neither was worth reading and since the machine generated version was shorter it was less not worth reading than the longer one...but the longer one contained the logical possibility of being worth reading whereas the machine written one was as good as it could possibly be. Or to put it another way, while it was not worth the human effort to write the story, it wasn't worth the CPU cycles to write the machine…

> The story was not worth writing or publishing or reading Of course, these are the wrong metrics. The correct metrics are: ad impressions vs. cost to generate content.

Ad impressions read by who ? Triggering which action ?

Re: Google is funding the creation of software that writes local news stories

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Don't most reporters start out with obscure/niche stories so they can hone their writing styles on relatively "unimportant" or filler pieces? If machines do all of that work, how do reporters develop the experience to be able to write an organized, in-depth important story?

I don't think reporters exist in this scenario.

Re: Google is funding the creation of software that writes local news stories

#73

I would strongly prefer that robo-written news not exist, not appear in the results of any searches I make, and not appear in any feed that I read. It is pollution that makes real information and insight harder to find. Does anyone actually like this stuff?

This is actually making an opening for "human only" papers, that will be easier to distinguish from noise. Non-profit independent, governing body is a must though to issue certification.

Like craft beer or artesanal cheese?

Re: Google is funding the creation of software that writes local news stories

#74
I recently found a YouTube channel with news videos that seem generated mostly programatically with a robot voice over and a combined +44M views on the channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzhc-N5YynO_shpHhzP2zuw/vid...

I wonder who's behind these and similar channels.

Re: Google is funding the creation of software that writes local news stories

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For me, neither was worth reading and since the machine generated version was shorter it was less not worth reading than the longer one...but the longer one contained the logical possibility of being worth reading whereas the machine written one was as good as it could possibly be. Or to put it another way, while it was not worth the human effort to write the story, it wasn't worth the CPU cycles to write the machine…

> The story was not worth writing or publishing or reading Of course, these are the wrong metrics. The correct metrics are: ad impressions vs. cost to generate content.

That's only for the publishing side. The reader's utility calculus matters too, and I agree with the other poster that both stories are garbage.

Re: Google is funding the creation of software that writes local news stories

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I've also noticed this on financial/stock news articles. I've seen a few of them use full 4-word names for corporations ("The Coca-Cola Company") dozens of times in one article, and multiple times per sentence.

Yes, finance and sports and weather and other metrics reporting is already highly automated.

Automated Insights https://automatedinsights.com - writes all the routine corporate earnings stories for Associated Press so they can cover more companies and let journalists actually investigate and write more nuanced pieces. Some earnings reports start with the software writing and get augmented by human journalists.

Re: Google is funding the creation of software that writes local news stories

#78
Ironically, the Adsense "valuable inventory" policy prohibits showing Google ads on automaitcally generated content [1]. I wonder if they will follow their own rules and refuse to show ads on content generated by this tool.

[1] https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/1346295?hl=en

Re: Google is funding the creation of software that writes local news stories

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I feel differently. I think there's a place for information that people would like to read as prose but the economics don't make sense to pay someone to write it. I feel like this is an advance that's increasing the wealth of the world because we're going to get more text while spending fewer man-hours on it. And it's just going to get better over time. It's obvious now when something was written by a bot, but I doub…

> Giving such text a human name as the author is indefensible. Why is it indefensible in your opinion? I think it is only fair that if I have a job of writing some output based on some inputs, and I define a process to do that that can be automated, the end product is still my labor, and I can sign it.

That's a tough question, and now I'm not so sure I can defend my opinion. It just comes from the fact that (today) the output will not be as good as a human writer. It's disingenuous to pass off a low quality product as a higher quality product, when it will take my time and attention reading it to differentiate them based on quality. Think of it in terms of branding and counterfeiting.

Later, after general AI, I will argue the opposite, that human-written articles should be labeled as such so I don't waste my time on them. ;)

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