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The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Why not use Dropbox public links or something similar?

There's limits on what you can share. imgur's big benefit is no cap on hosting, so if your meme goes nuclear you're not going to get a "bandwidth exceeded" page.

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Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

#72

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Why not use Dropbox public links or something similar?

There's limits on what you can share. imgur's big benefit is no cap on hosting, so if your meme goes nuclear you're not going to get a "bandwidth exceeded" page.

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Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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I don't think we have the same definition of a parasite or we see things differently. For me a parasite is a startup being a copy-cat, eating your market share, stealing your content, and stealing your customers. But Reddit and Imgur are two different websites. If Reddit was that mad about it, they could have done it in a month on S3... If you want a parasite I will say 9gag. It's true that Imgur has to grow its prod…

The characterisation of Imgur as a parasite isn't a value judgement. Imgur isn't doing anything wrong (nor reddit for that matter).

You may not want it to be but I'm that case you probably should've chosen a different word...

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Imgur pushing it's own website over direct image links is the exact reason I've stopped using it. I understand they have to make money by but I just want to put a damn picture on the internet and send the link to others. I don't want to have to deal with Imgur's album/site link crap and dumb expansion into being a social network. It's hard now to even find the direct link, nevermind avoid Imgur's annoying messages ab…

ironically, image hosting sites being crap was the reason imgur was created in the first place. turns out you have to pay the bills somehow

And most of them were crap because of mess, noisy sites with intrusive ads.

The basic problem seems to be that the web has a trust issue, not between users and services. But between services and advertisers.

Until that trust issue is solved, so that sites can bring ad hosting under their own domain rather than embed unsupervised ads from third parties, there will be no end to this runaround.

That said, inhouse ad management do not always do a good job either. Right now i have Reddit ads killed because i got tired of having some rotting face glare at me from the sidebar just because i visit the odd gaming sub-reddit from time to time.

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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the decline is completely imgur's doing - they went from a site that promised to be simple, clean and easy to a site that mirrored the problems it started out to solve.

frustrating overlays, slow, intrusive self promotion ... even worse on mobile. anyone remember the annoying cat paw?

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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post #66

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That was really surprising to me. Recently saw some picture with a woman in it (very SFW picture, nothing risky about it at all) then scrolled down and BAM immediately very NSFW. I thought I did something wrong but I think it was imgur who screwed up now.

Fortunately this is an easy thing for Imgur to solve in 2017 if they really want to with machine learning. Enough is available online that almost anyone could do it at this point.

Indeed, this is a solved problem. See: Not Hotdog.

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Imgur is essentially a parasite upon reddit which exploited and relied upon reddit's lack of native image posts. Imgur's dependency on reddit led to it trying to compete directly with it to ensure its survival without its host (Imgur is now also a place to find and comment on images), but also ensured reddit would eventually drop it, thus paradoxically also hurting its survival. Ultimately I think Imgur is destined t…

It started as a symbiotic relationship. Reddit had no good image hosting solution and it was a real problem. Before Imgur came along, you'd often find image posts where the link was dead, dog slow, or took you to a page filled with ads and malware. Imgur made Reddit better.

If anything, Reddit was the parasite because its users used a ton of Imgur bandwidth and by direct linking, didn't give anything in return.

Once Imgur decided to actually try to become a sustainable business, they had to change how that worked by trying to ensure that people coming to the site also saw ads. Then they started building their own community and working to become a direct competitor to Reddit.

At that point, the right biological metaphor is probably too organisms with the same food source in the same ecosystem, competing for resources.

Given that, it's no surprise that they are both working to sever ties to each other.

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Why on earth would Reddit want to add a massive expense (image hosting) at a time that they're already hemorrhaging money? Especially since imgur was still a fairly adequate host for the site. Reddit's image hosting seems like burning money for nothing. Not to mention the Reddit image URLs are horrifying. I upload stuff to imgur just for the nice, short URLs.

> I upload stuff to imgur just for the nice, short URLs.

genuinely curious, why is that important? is it common to memorize the URLs instead of copying and pasting?

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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post #20

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As it turns out, it's really hard to monetize an S3 bucket at scale.

Would it be easier to monetize a small S3 bucket?

No, but my $3 AWS bill is much easier to ignore than their $300,000 one.
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