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Re: Atom 1.18 released

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UI themes, and a much more cohesive default theme

This is the best theme on VS Code I've found so far. Lovely. https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=azemoh.t...

This is the default Atom theme.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

What's the actual difference? As far as I can see, they're both poor text editors with bad interfaces, built on top of the horrible mess that is Electron. They're also both massive. VS Code takes up 235 MB and Atom takes a whopping 530 MB. Sublime Text is like 30 MB.

> they're both poor text editors with bad interfaces

They're not poor editors. They're okay. And the interface is fine, I've actually grown to like Atom after having used it for a month. They are they're at least an order a magnitude bigger and slower than Sublime Text, yet pretty usable on a modern desktop computer. I've also used Sublime Text for three or four years on a daily basis.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

It is funny trade that I like Atom's UX(e.g. layout, short keys, etc.) more than VSCode's, although performance is ok-ish (v1.17.2). Coming from Sublime, Atom is more familiar than VSCode. It's also funny that I wrote c++ before and Visual Studio is the best!

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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post #65

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VS Code has practically all of the features you mentioned from both Atom and Sublime Text 3.

I'm pretty sure VS Code's window management does not match up. For instance, VS code doesn't allow nested horizontal window panes inside vertical window panes, which is super useful for large displays.

Here is a relevant issue for that feature: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/1749

edit: here is the best issue to vote on: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/14909

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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post #23

I prefer Notepad++. On Linux, Geany is a viable alternative.... If I need an IDE, I will get an IDE. I want my text editor to be as lightweight as possible. This was not the case with Atom.

I use Sublime because I absolutely can't live without multicursors.

there's Vim-multiple-cursors on Vim that works really similar to the ST multicursor

https://github.com/terryma/vim-multiple-cursors

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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post #58

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Atom is free. Sublime costs $70. Plus, Atom comes with several lovely features Sublime doesn't have. Pay less, get more? Great deal! It's funny to catch friends looking at Sublime's payment popup window. I always joke, "oh, you're still evaluating?" Of course they're not evaluating. They're never going to pay for it. What a nuisance. Atom has excellent window management. It's very easy to drag a tab and split it half…

VS Code has practically all of the features you mentioned from both Atom and Sublime Text 3.

There's still a lot that people seem to love in Atom that VSC doesn't (yet?) offer. The issue/request list[1] offers a good glimpse of what's left.

[1] https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3...

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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post #14
post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

What's the actual difference? As far as I can see, they're both poor text editors with bad interfaces, built on top of the horrible mess that is Electron. They're also both massive. VS Code takes up 235 MB and Atom takes a whopping 530 MB. Sublime Text is like 30 MB.

it's funny to complain about absolute program size on the disk...

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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post #23

I prefer Notepad++. On Linux, Geany is a viable alternative.... If I need an IDE, I will get an IDE. I want my text editor to be as lightweight as possible. This was not the case with Atom.

notepad++ has horrible project workspace navigation. Any trivial UI that requires horizontal scrollbar is just not ready for prime time. go back to the drawing board

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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post #14
post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

What's the actual difference? As far as I can see, they're both poor text editors with bad interfaces, built on top of the horrible mess that is Electron. They're also both massive. VS Code takes up 235 MB and Atom takes a whopping 530 MB. Sublime Text is like 30 MB.

The whole Atom / VS Code thing is fascinating to me. Don't most denizens of HN already use far superior editors? My day is spent in Visual Studio (the real one) and IntelliJ IDEA, both of which annihilate those other options. And both of them are freely available, the latter available on everything.

VS Code in particular seems to have a massive astroturfing campaign behind it. Every benign post that tangentially mentions it yields dozens of ridiculously adulatory posts. It is incredibly fishy.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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post #58
post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

Atom is free. Sublime costs $70. Plus, Atom comes with several lovely features Sublime doesn't have. Pay less, get more? Great deal! It's funny to catch friends looking at Sublime's payment popup window. I always joke, "oh, you're still evaluating?" Of course they're not evaluating. They're never going to pay for it. What a nuisance. Atom has excellent window management. It's very easy to drag a tab and split it half…

You can do multi-cursor stuff in Atom too. I rarely jump into vim for macros anymore, multi-cursor handles most things.
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