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PyPy v5.8 released

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Re: PyPy v5.8 released

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Post by stuaxo »

smortaz wrote: post #60
boultonmark wrote: post #9

I have a question and then a general vent 1. Does anyone know the latest update on NumPyPy? PyPy for me is just not a usable proposition because I heavily use Numpy (and Scipy et al). So I am forced to use slow Python + fast Numpy or slow Numpy + fast Python. Very saddening. The C-Extension is just so off the pace, NumPyPy was meant to solve that quandry. And I know some smart Alec will trot out the usual 'downshift…

We [msft python team] tried to get PyPy some funding, but it didn't go very far. I'll keep trying. We've also started this project to enable jitting for CPython: https://github.com/Microsoft/Pyjion The core of it is there and it's been accepted into the main trunk, but we haven't had the cycles to do quality codegen yet.

Pyjion looks good, once it is easy to build in Linux it will probably attract some users and even possibly some extra developers.

Re: PyPy v5.8 released

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Post by Redoubts »

fijal wrote: post #25
boultonmark wrote: post #9

I have a question and then a general vent 1. Does anyone know the latest update on NumPyPy? PyPy for me is just not a usable proposition because I heavily use Numpy (and Scipy et al). So I am forced to use slow Python + fast Numpy or slow Numpy + fast Python. Very saddening. The C-Extension is just so off the pace, NumPyPy was meant to solve that quandry. And I know some smart Alec will trot out the usual 'downshift…

in short - funding. If we can find someone who wants fast numpy AND fast python under the same hood, we can combine the approaches of cpyext and numpypy and make it fast. The project is just too big to do on spare time. I've been trying to find some funding for that for quite a while, but I haven't been able to find any sizable backer just yet. Cheers, Maciej Fijalkowski

When I go to the numpypy page, it says I can't donate directly to numpypy efforts.

http://pypy.org/numpydonate.html

Re: PyPy v5.8 released

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Post by doug1001 »

dang wrote: post #70
boultonmark wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah the 'smart alec' has appeared. I'm not stupid, I know code like that won't be faster in Python but PyPy shows that it can be a hell of a lot faster than CPython and right up there with Node.js and the travesty is that CPython is so far off the pace and getting slower

> Ah the 'smart alec' has appeared. Would you please not post uncivilly to HN, regardless of how annoying you find someone's comment? This kind of thing degrades discussion and provokes worse from others. We're hoping to do better than that here.

i suspect "smart alec" was chosen with exactly the intention you're expecting--ie, i'm not a native English speaker but i believe the term when used by adults to refer to other adults is benign--perhaps like the "G"-rated version of "wise-ass" or "pedant." Maybe wrong here, but benefit of the doubt perhaps....

Re: PyPy v5.8 released

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Post by dang »

doug1001 wrote: post #73
dang wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ah the 'smart alec' has appeared. Would you please not post uncivilly to HN, regardless of how annoying you find someone's comment? This kind of thing degrades discussion and provokes worse from others. We're hoping to do better than that here.

i suspect "smart alec" was chosen with exactly the intention you're expecting--ie, i'm not a native English speaker but i believe the term when used by adults to refer to other adults is benign--perhaps like the "G"-rated version of "wise-ass" or "pedant." Maybe wrong here, but benefit of the doubt perhaps....

No, it's a putdown. This breaks the HN guideline against calling names in arguments (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html).

The account also has a history of being snarky.

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