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Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

#71

Most of his configuration is invalid, due to his misconfiguration of group policy. For example, he disabled the Teredo policy. But here's the help text for that policy: "If you disable or do not configure this policy setting, the local host settings are used." He made this error countless times, rendering the entire experiment a failure. Oops.

Most of his configuration is invalid, due to his misconfiguration of group policy.

Yeah, it's his fault that he didn't properly navigate the Kafkaesque nightmare that Microsoft has created in order to thwart people from disabling all this spyware.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

#72

The switch to Linux or other free operating systems is long overdue. If your excuse is hardware support, then (1) your hardware is probably supported these days and (2) you should not buy hardware that is incompatible with the operating system you plan to use. If your excuse is editing MS Office files, LibreOffice supports the formats and works great, and MS Office on Wine is an option. If your excuse is games, then…

> If your excuse is editing MS Office files, LibreOffice supports the formats and works

For very small values of "works". I've found that even high school projects turn out to be a bit too much for libre office.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

#73
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> your hardware is probably supported these days True. Support has gotten significantly better. It's not perfect, and the failure cases are much worse than Windows (and somewhat worse than OS X), but it's gotten better. > you should not buy hardware that is incompatible with the operating system you plan to use This is where you start going off the rails. People did buy hardware that was compatible with the operating…

>This is where you start going off the rails. People did buy hardware that was compatible with the operating system they do use. It is super presumptuous and weird to try this sleight-of-hand in your argument. Make new purchases more intelligently. >You are now off the rails and airborne. Excel is still largely unsupported and breaks nontrivial spreadsheets. The UI is also, IMO, a huge step backwards from Office and…

I've been using Linux as a daily driver for fifteen years. I have shot my share of trouble and the next two guys' too. It's not a good experience. It's bad. Even when things aren't breaking left, right, and sideways (which, to be clear, definitely happens less often today than five years ago, with the corollary that that breakage is usually something a mere mortal can't do too much about), it feels kinda...well, shitty. I've done my time with a bunch of different DEs and each and every one is a fit-and-finish mess. (KDE comes closest. It is still leagues shy of the Mac that's also on my desk.) If you--the general community, not you specifically--can't make something that feels good to use, your foot is already deep in that bucket. Then you add on hardware and software incompatibilities and your answer is "halfway patches or just do without", and you are so deep in Zealotville that me shouting sure isn't going to reach you (but might dissuade a few people from burning themselves along the way).

If you don't have a positive argument for using your thing instead of framing its competition negatively, few people will ever use it. The Linux desktop as a whole doesn't have that positive argument. Because, for most people and including most developers, it is a strictly inferior good. Not to Windows--but to the Mac. You're stomping your feet about people not being bothered to troubleshoot--it ain't their fault that that's still a tire fire! I use a Linux desktop because I know what I'm getting into and I know enough, from the aforementioned fifteen years of dealing with its crap, to make it mostly tolerable for work (not at all for fun, which is why I still use Windows, too!). I sure wouldn't start today, not on either the handwavy "but but telemetry!" grounds nor the usefulness of it.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

#74

Most of his configuration is invalid, due to his misconfiguration of group policy. For example, he disabled the Teredo policy. But here's the help text for that policy: "If you disable or do not configure this policy setting, the local host settings are used." He made this error countless times, rendering the entire experiment a failure. Oops.

Most of his configuration is invalid, due to his misconfiguration of group policy. Yeah, it's his fault that he didn't properly navigate the Kafkaesque nightmare that Microsoft has created in order to thwart people from disabling all this spyware.

It's pretty basic Windows GPO knowledge. Lots of them work this way.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

#75

Most of his configuration is invalid, due to his misconfiguration of group policy. For example, he disabled the Teredo policy. But here's the help text for that policy: "If you disable or do not configure this policy setting, the local host settings are used." He made this error countless times, rendering the entire experiment a failure. Oops.

Most of his configuration is invalid, due to his misconfiguration of group policy. Yeah, it's his fault that he didn't properly navigate the Kafkaesque nightmare that Microsoft has created in order to thwart people from disabling all this spyware.

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Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Their forced Windows 10 upgrade "mistake" and my experience last year trying to plug all the holes in enterprise just to watch them re-install Candy Crush Saga with the next update vaporized any confidence or trust I had. I've always been an MS person but am running Ubuntu on all of my devices now. I feel it hurts my productivity as lots of things I did in Windows just don't work in Ubuntu, but it's better th…

I switched about 10 years ago. Before that I was windows 100% on desktop. I had similar issues at first but gradually became pretty comfortable with Ubuntu and Linux in general. Some things are more of a pain and may always be in Linux but overall the experience for me has been that things have been getting easier with time. I think that for better or worse as more applications move to the web the change will be easi…

I don't mind the questions at all. I hope you didn't want the TL;DR version.

Some of my pain points. Many probably have solutions, but I'm stuck between spending time dealing with it the way it is, and spending time finding a solution. These are not in any particular order:

1. Serial communication(terminal, for interfacing with console ports). I tried a few programs that didn't really work right away, and settled on Putty as that's what I used in windows. Except Putty under Ubuntu has no menu bar -- just an X to close it, and I can't copy or paste anything in or out of it. I also have to run it as root to access /dev/ttyUSB0 (I know I think there is a setting for this, just hasn't been important enough to spend the time looking). The copy/paste is the most annoying part.

2. Office(Outlook in particular) -- I tried a few options, even found a plugin for Thunderbird that would let me connect to an exchange server, but it just never quite worked right. I've adapted and am using OWA now, but I feel like it slows me down. I haven't yet been able to get Office >2007 running under Wine (not saying that I can't, just time vs benefit)

3. Google Earth Pro - I used this almost daily. I finally got it running under wine, but it's an older version, and many features don't work, such as searching by address. And any time it's running it leaves a shadow on the bottom of my screen, on top of all other applications.

4. Right-click shell interaction with 7-zip. Ubuntu's archive manager just doesn't seem to work right sometimes. I really miss right click > extract to ... or Extract all to (asterisk)\

5. PUTTING AN ISO ON A USB DRIVE. This is one of the more shocking ones and is something I can't even use the Windows 10 VM for because I'm not able to get USB passthrough working. Something as simple as firing up Unetbootin or Rufus and plopping an ISO on to a USB drive is nearly impossible on Ubuntu. I have Unetbootin, but have yet to get it to work. Haven't found Rufus yet for Linux/Ubuntu.

6. Network manager. It's always crashing and it never does what I want. Sometimes I just want to set a f*cking IP address on an interface and don't want to jump through 15 hoops. I might need to set addresses in 20 different networks in a single day. If I do it with ifconfig, the network manager "fixes" it for me. I have seriously resulted to using "sudo watch -n .2 ifconfig eno1 192.168.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.0" to set and keep an address on an interface.

Sometimes when it crashes and refuses to scan wifi networks(or 4g networks) I can just sudo service network manager restart, other times it takes a complete reboot.

7. I get random errors that pop up all the time "A system error has been detected, would you like to send a report to Ubuntu? With the default set to yes" -- never bothered to look for the error and it doesn't seem to coincide with any behavior I've seen.

8. RDP -- Remmina is pretty close to good enough, but sometimes I find copy/paste doesn't work, and the VNC function seems to have some compatibility issues.

9. CD/DVD Writing -- a problem solved long ago in Windows still gives me headaches in Ubuntu. System stutter will toast a disc, if I can even get it to burn at all.

10. Lock screen issues(not really productivity related...) Sometimes I will lock the desktop and close the screen(I don't often use standby) -- and open it back up and can use the desktop for 10-20 secs without entering a password. Then, as if it forgot, it will toss the locked screen up there and make me unlock it.

11. Task switcher grouping. I wish there was a way to turn this off without using the static application switcher. I alt-tab A LOT and don't like the delay I have to take in order to switch windows in a single application. To be fair, I hate the newer Windows behavior also that regroups windows in alphabetical order after the top few.

12. There's always some vendor rabbit hole that I get sucked into that would be easier to deal with on Windows. Maybe Dell packaged a bios update in a .exe file that can't be extracted without a Windows box(yes probably with Wine, but how much time am I going to spend getting that .exe to run?). Or some SAN management application, and don't even get me started on Java and Cisco's SDM, or some special VPN program I have to use to access a client's network that doesn't have a functional linux version, etc...

Those are the ones at the top of my head. I realize most can probably be solved with some time spent, but I'm still not yet nimble enough in linux to effectively compile/recompile things without following a step-by-step somewhere, and then when I do that, I'm left to my own devices to keep it updated, something I'd rather not spend cycles doing.

I'm running 16.04 LTS on a Latitude E7250 laptop. Chrome(not Chromium) is my main browser. There are tons of things that Ubuntu handles very well, and I paid nothing for it, so I can't complain much. One of the big complaint's I've heard about linux vs windows on laptops is battery life -- but I'm happy with what I get. Depending on what I'm doing, it will last anywhere from 2 to 12 hours. Standby and resume work well, though sometimes it seems that it shuts down instead of standby(though I haven't ruled out fat-finger in these cases), and all in all I think they've come a long way to making a usable OS for someone like me that's been using Windows since 3.0(though I'm quite comfortable on a command line).

As for the trust, it's mostly because I know TINSTAFL, and as it's free, I wonder where Canonical's interests are. The constant pestering to send error reports to Canonical are reminiscent of Windows trying to upload my crashdumps to MS. Whether or not these are memory dumps, I don't know, but to me Error report is often =Crashdump=memory dump= whatever info was in memory at that time is fired off to who knows where into an environment with unknown security.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This is where you start going off the rails. People did buy hardware that was compatible with the operating system they do use. It is super presumptuous and weird to try this sleight-of-hand in your argument. Make new purchases more intelligently. >You are now off the rails and airborne. Excel is still largely unsupported and breaks nontrivial spreadsheets. The UI is also, IMO, a huge step backwards from Office and…

I've been using Linux as a daily driver for fifteen years. I have shot my share of trouble and the next two guys' too. It's not a good experience . It's bad . Even when things aren't breaking left, right, and sideways (which, to be clear, definitely happens less often today than five years ago, with the corollary that that breakage is usually something a mere mortal can't do too much about), it feels kinda...well, sh…

It's not really my thing, but Plasma seems like a really solid desktop. What are your complaints with it?

And I'll raise this point again:

>You and people like you are the reason that it's not as good as it could be. I use Linux as my daily driver and it works extremely well. But if you continue to let it languish with a small market share because you can't be bothered to troubleshoot it for 10 minutes or maybe live without that piece of software you need so much, then it won't even go anywhere. Yours is a self defeating attitude.

Using proprietary operating systems because Linux isn't there yet is a great way to keep Linux from getting there. It's a chicken and egg problem. What would you prefer: getting your privacy thourougly invaded by a proprietary operating system, or being there to help Linux gain market share and tip the scales? Even if it's not perfect, it's more than enough, and supporting it is the best choice.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

#78
I actually like this. Fuck the enterprises who degrade the experience for their users. Disable this disable that. Install shit like McAfee. They just need an excuse for their existence. And the users are the ones to suffer, and the company loses precious productivity without knowing it.

I know companies that will pre install McAfee in the brand new MacBooks they give out to employees! It's insane. Microsoft should just say, if you want to use our OS, stop fucking with it.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

#79

The switch to Linux or other free operating systems is long overdue. If your excuse is hardware support, then (1) your hardware is probably supported these days and (2) you should not buy hardware that is incompatible with the operating system you plan to use. If your excuse is editing MS Office files, LibreOffice supports the formats and works great, and MS Office on Wine is an option. If your excuse is games, then…

> If your excuse is editing MS Office files, LibreOffice supports the formats and works For very small values of "works". I've found that even high school projects turn out to be a bit too much for libre office.

Well, my definition of "works" is that you can read it. Authoring new documents should use ODF. And again, MS Office works on Wine, so you can use that in the worst case.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

#80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went through the same thing last year. I spent two months trying to plug all the holes in the enterprise version, for a medium sized healthcare client, and eventually gave up. The LTSB edition looks promising but I haven't put it under the microscope yet.

LTSB (aka: long-term servicing branch) I'm not sure if it's comedic or tragic that the version so very many users would want most, is not only the version with the worst name, but also the version Microsoft discourages people from adopting. Critical patch support, infrequent updates, and excludes crufty bloatware. What's not to like?

but also the version Microsoft discourages people from adopting.

Not surprising, because MS wants to push all the features (and ads, telemetry, etc.) to users regardless of whether they actually want them.

Indeed I wish MS would just keep supporting XP as the "Windows LTSB" with nothing but critical security patches, and keep doing it until the OS becomes nearly invulnerable to remote attacks.

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