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Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by Semaphor »

Alex3917 wrote: post #17
imran3740 wrote: post #9

As with voat.co, who's gonna switch to this? Really the only people who switched over to Voat are the people who felt reddit was restricting their rights by posting controversial/hateful material on reddit. So it tends to be full of /pol-like MRAs/extreme right/alt-right users. Voten seems like it's trying to implement a more democratic system, but who will be pushed into switching over to that?

> who's gonna switch to this? Probably no one. But you also need to keep in mind that most HN readers probably have a very skewed perception of what Reddit is. E.g. basically my entire 11+ year experience with Reddit is reading and commenting on subreddits that aggregate articles about various topics. But the vast majority of subreddits either allow only self-posts, or else only allow links to one or two whitelisted…

Thank you. The article said "Reddit alternative" in the headline and kept talking about "social bookmarking" in the main text. If Reddit was a social bookmarking site still, is have left long ago.

edit: Registered. Is this a joke? 262px from the start of one submission to the next. Reddit: 98px. So I guess it actually is a social bookmarking site where people can post memes. But certainly no Reddit competitor. Maybe a pinterest competitor.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by Semaphor »

DanBC wrote: post #37
macey wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people feel that Reddit is overmoderated - there was that controversy recently where one of the employees admitted manually altering a bunch of content (removing pro-Trump submissions and comments). Also I imagine any general forum like Reddit wouldn't retain its power users for more than a few years at most. At a given time, most users are either at the point where they don't get any of the inside jokes, or…

> A lot of people feel that Reddit is overmoderated - A tiny handful of people feel that Reddit is over moderated, and those people went to voat or 8chan. Everyone else thinks there's not enough moderation on Reddit. When you ask people what the good bits of Reddit are they almost always talk about the most heavily moderated sub-Reddits, which is telling.

Heavily moderated and/or a small and tightly focused subreddit (which usually tend to not need heavy moderation)

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by chrisdbaldwin »

aloisdg wrote: post #26
kevingrahl wrote: post #13

Aaand yet another reddit "alternative" and they all seem to fail or have troubles gaining traction. I can recall voat.co, hubski.com and imzy.com (my favorite so far) and now one more. I'd really like to know why devs think they can rival Reddit, it's just too big.

I would like a decentralized Reddit.

make it with blockstack

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by stefanve »

I have looked for an alternative for along time. Maybe this is something maybe not. But I'm going to try :-). I love HN because you are able to have great content and great conversations, but it is afk SE focused. A new platform for other news would be great

Edit: created #agile was thinking of trying to create a agile focused HN and 1 minute later this came along :-). Anyway if this doesn't work out; DM me if you are interested in starting something like a agile focused HN. Looking a bit more fore the business / change management side of things instead of the SE side of things.

Or if this already exists please point me to it :-)

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by nirav72 »

Alex3917 wrote: post #17
imran3740 wrote: post #9

As with voat.co, who's gonna switch to this? Really the only people who switched over to Voat are the people who felt reddit was restricting their rights by posting controversial/hateful material on reddit. So it tends to be full of /pol-like MRAs/extreme right/alt-right users. Voten seems like it's trying to implement a more democratic system, but who will be pushed into switching over to that?

> who's gonna switch to this? Probably no one. But you also need to keep in mind that most HN readers probably have a very skewed perception of what Reddit is. E.g. basically my entire 11+ year experience with Reddit is reading and commenting on subreddits that aggregate articles about various topics. But the vast majority of subreddits either allow only self-posts, or else only allow links to one or two whitelisted…

yep. Reddit is still doing well with no real competitor. I still enjoy it enough to continue to use it. I usually just stick to subs that fall under my specific interest. I stay out most of the caustic subs (i.e any political and news related) and filter out most of them on from the main page.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by arbitrage »

root_axis wrote: post #64
dkhenry wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right and then try to participate in the conversation, and you can't, but since its a shadow ban you don't even know that you can't participate. In general your giving traffic and ad dollars to people who seem more interested in pressing a narrative then providing content.

What is the supposed narrative that shadowbans intend to foster?

Making people outraged and then trying to convince them to switch to voat. Or now, I suppose, voten.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by znpy »

Signed up, wandered around, here are my impression.

* Nothing fancy, nothing new, nothing impressive. I wouldn't spend time on this site.

* The graphical design wasters most of my screen estate.

* The side panel overlaps with the content when the window is not in full-screen.

* If you register without an email, it is impossible to add one.

* Did I mention that 60% of my screen estate is wasted ?

* Reddit is open source, this is not.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by stefanve »

KirinDave wrote: post #20

Has anyone signed up? It's very interesting what the first topics are. There is a #conservatism with 8 members already, but you can't make #liberalism, #communism or #leftists. "The_Donald" is "coming soon". (Edit: I must have hit a bug because I tried with a few names and my attempts just didn't do anything, but someone else did it immediately). I wonder if this is like Gab, an attempt to make a more single-issue-po…

Jup created #agile was thinking of trying to create a agile focused HN and 1 minute later this came along :-). Anyway if this doesn't work out; DM me if you are interested in starting something like a agile focused HN. Looking a bit more fore the business / change management side of things instead of the SE side of things

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by exergy »

orcdork wrote: post #28
zzzzz_ wrote: post #16

Reddit is technology wise pretty simple - it's just one step up from a forum. So these guys have re-implemented a forum and added a stack of features that only a bunch of devs could come up with. Markdown support is mentioned twice at the top of the features list! Anyway this is a site by actual guys that used to work at Reddit so you'd expect them to be pretty smart business orientated chaps right? Well they launch,…

This is actually the worst an internet comment can be - no real insight, judgemental, thinly veiled insults and accusations, excusing bad ethics for business sense, bad tempered and rude. What new platforms need, is less of this . I have no real horse in the race and am generally sceptical about reddit alternatives as the refuge of whoever gets banned on reddit, but hey, feel free to shit over other people's efforts!

He raised some very valid points though: requiring an account, no activity, no real benefit offered by real-time as things stand on the website.

Edit: To add my own - Doesn't work without Javascript, information density of both content and comments is far too low, and, flatly, Why? What benefit does it offer over Reddit? What role does it fill that Reddit isn't presently filling? Because for me, things that Reddit does terribly includes iffy moderation, witty snark being upvoted more than sensible comments, and their abysmal search. HN, for instance, is great with all of these things, so I'm on here a lot.

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