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Germany's Energy Giant Launches Ethereum-Based Electric Car Charging Stations

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Re: Germany's Energy Giant Launches Ethereum-Based Electric Car Charging Stations

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Post by davidgerard »

sanswork wrote: post #58
bkanber wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the wikipedia entry for "blockchain" [0] > Blockchains are "an open, distributed ledger that can record transactions between two parties efficiently and in a verifiable and permanent way. The ledger itself can also be programmed to trigger transactions automatically." Blockchains are exactly what they're looking for, they solve the problem perfectly. By design, the blocks in a blockchain are a redundant, scalabl…

Could you give me a practical example of how you would use one to solve this problem that couldn't be just as easily solved without one?

There are none. The only practical example where a blockchain does things a centralised database doesn't is a Bitcoin-style cryptocurrency.

(Even then, proof-of-work mining naturally recentralises, as we see with Bitcoin. Ethereum claims to be planning to move to proof-of-stake, but there's no working implementation or date for this.)

Re: Germany's Energy Giant Launches Ethereum-Based Electric Car Charging Stations

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Post by davidgerard »

Ursium wrote: post #45
gcb0 wrote: post #3

how big really is this project? sounds more like something thought up to an advertising agency. bmw had tons of billboards advertising the i3 as a digital wallet in futuristic concept drawings. but again, all the work of advertising agencies.

I'm not yet allowed to give out numbers but it's going to be the largest IoT + Blockchain deployment on the planet. It's early days, the tech is young, and we're nowhere near 'mainstream' yet but I'm excited we're finally able to release real-life 'dapps' to the general public so people can experience blockchain for themselves.

The DAO, right, but on the Internet of Things! I'm sure it will all be fine, fine.

Re: Germany's Energy Giant Launches Ethereum-Based Electric Car Charging Stations

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Post by davidgerard »

Geee wrote: post #44
ralfd wrote: post #6

What is Ethereum? Something like Bitcoin?

Ethereum is a decentralized platform that runs smart contracts: applications that run exactly as programmed without any possibility of downtime, censorship, fraud or third party interference. It is also a valuable cryptocurrency which is used as the payment to run code on the network.

> Ethereum is a decentralized platform that runs smart contracts: applications that run exactly as programmed without any possibility of downtime, censorship, fraud or third party interference.

Until the second the whales are in danger of losing money. https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/the-dao/

Re: Germany's Energy Giant Launches Ethereum-Based Electric Car Charging Stations

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Post by DennisP »

cashmonkey85 wrote: post #69
DennisP wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has the second-biggest market cap at $6 billion, it's been in production for a couple years, it has multiple open source implementations, its inventors and other developers are known to the public, it has much more powerful smart contract capabilities than Bitcoin, and it doesn't have high fees and backlogs.

...and it's a vaperware scam. Their technology just doesn't add up. No way it does what is claims.

Then I make my living on vaporware. My full-time job is writing smart contracts for Ethereum.

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Post by Ursium »

Animats wrote: post #47
Ursium wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, the Euro Token is a virtual FIAT implemented on Ethereum. I can't reveal much more information on it until the project formally goes live (which is imminent), but I can't tell you it thankfully goes a lot further than what you noted. There's a lot more information coming up because it's my understanding Carsten only intended his tweet a bit as a 'teaser'. I had written this piece back in September when we e…

The article says "has launched". It hasn't?

It's a soft launch. Looks like the media jumped on it a tad too early, but the proper launch is imminent regardless.

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Post by Ursium »

andrejc wrote: post #70

Could someone not build something similar, but for WiFi routers instead of charging stations?. I.e. a company selling or renting pre-programmed WiFi routers that sell bandwidth directly to the users. Anyone could buy or rent one and put it inside their private space that is within a public zone (e.g. cafes and restaurants). Thoughts?

Ah yes, what you describe is what Christoph Jentzsch dubbed the Universal Sharing Network, or USN. Slock.it [recent round of seed funding](https://blog.slock.it/slock-it-secures-2-million-usd-seed-fu...) is dedicated to its development. We're really lucky to have some amazing partners such as [Canonical](https://www.canonical.com/) to help bring this to life.

We expect the first integrations to make their way to the general public during the course of 2018, with some private betas kicking off Q3-Q4 this year.

Re: Germany's Energy Giant Launches Ethereum-Based Electric Car Charging Stations

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Post by onestone »

RichardHeart wrote: post #2

Wasn't Ethereum unusable for a a decent percentage of 2017 so far? " charging and billing solution with no middleman is created.” The ethereum network is a middleman, that has fees and downtime, and the unknowable risk of future forks, downtime and client software choice incompatibilities. This is their "wallet" https://shareandcharge.com/ which also, as for no other middleman free things, wants you to use the appsto…

> Wasn't Ethereum unusable for a a decent percentage of 2017 so far?

No. Ethereum suffered DoS attacks for a couple of months, but even during the worst of them it had significantly larger tx capacity than Bitcoin.

Re: Germany's Energy Giant Launches Ethereum-Based Electric Car Charging Stations

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Post by [deleted] »

Animats wrote: post #31

On the site for RWE's charging points, there's no mention of this.[1] The way RWE actually works is like cell phone plans. Users have to sign up for a 1-year contract. This gets you an ID token which the charging stations recognize when you plug into the charger. Then there's an EUR 0.30/Kwh charge, which is billed periodically. That's the usual way the system is used. The Share and Charge system [3] doesn't use Ethe…

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Re: Germany's Energy Giant Launches Ethereum-Based Electric Car Charging Stations

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Post by cashmonkey85 »

DennisP wrote: post #74
cashmonkey85 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...and it's a vaperware scam. Their technology just doesn't add up. No way it does what is claims.

Then I make my living on vaporware. My full-time job is writing smart contracts for Ethereum.

I'm curious where? Someone actually pays you to do this?

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Post by DennisP »

cashmonkey85 wrote: post #79
DennisP wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then I make my living on vaporware. My full-time job is writing smart contracts for Ethereum.

I'm curious where? Someone actually pays you to do this?

There's a thriving ecosystem of startups, a fair amount of corporate interest, and a shortage of people good at writing smart contracts. I work for a company that provides dev and security auditing, mostly for startups, and business is good.
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