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Re: File System Improvements to the Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by ghshephard »

chx wrote: post #67
ghshephard wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likewise - except for me it's been 15 years. Switched over in 2001, and didn't look back. Running WSL creators edition is really a delight. It's not quite there yet - still has a year or two to bake - but the progress is great. They just added serial support yesterday (which is important for a bunch of the linux binaries I run). For the very first time I'm honestly considering sitting down to a Windows System to do w…

For me at least the big problem is malware. Running Arch Linux means I do not need to worry about malware. Ransomware. Crap like that. Yes, I am a reasonably experienced computer user and it's quite unlikely I would click anything "wrong" but not having to worry about a single bad click causing hours of recovery is a big plus. Edit: while I understand downvotes I would be much happier if you'd educate me where I am w…

Beats the heck out of me - you make a good point. Windows Systems are certainly more popular targets for Malware than ArchLinux/OpenBSD. I absolutely agree with you that if just want to not deal with that (and still actually use the Internet) - getting off the major platforms is a pretty straightforward play.

But - if you want to use all the Tier 1 Commercial software (or, in the cases of things like garageband, free software ) - kind of hard not to have a Windows or Mac.

Re: File System Improvements to the Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by ghshephard »

JorgeGT wrote: post #64
ghshephard wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty certain I had WSL running on my system without being a member of Windows Insider. You just need to turn that on if you want to be on the Fast Track...

Parent said WSL updates. You can get WSL but in order to get updates like this one you need Insider builds.

I thought this WSL update came with creators edition? Unless you mean the fast track WSL Updates, but not the other windows updates - which yes, I agree, would be nice.

Re: File System Improvements to the Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by JorgeGT »

ghshephard wrote: post #72
JorgeGT wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parent said WSL updates. You can get WSL but in order to get updates like this one you need Insider builds.

I thought this WSL update came with creators edition? Unless you mean the fast track WSL Updates, but not the other windows updates - which yes, I agree, would be nice.

No, this update comes with Build 16176. Creators Update is Build 15046: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/release_not...

So in order to get it you would need to join the Fast Insider ring...

Re: File System Improvements to the Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by masklinn »

nialv7 wrote: post #44

Windows subsystem for Linux? Or the Linux subsystem for Windows? These names are confusing...

It's a Windows subsystem[0] for [running] Linux [applications].

The terminology is "Windows subsystem for [target environment]" so "Windows subsystem for OS/2" lets you run OS/2 application on NT, "Windows subsystem for Win32" lets you run Win32 applications on NT, and "Windows subsystem for Linux" lets you run Linux applications on NT.

[0] "The interface between user mode applications and operating system kernel functions […] There are four main environment subsystems: the Win32 subsystem, an OS/2 subsystem, the Windows Subsystem for Linux and a POSIX subsystem."

Re: File System Improvements to the Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by noen »

laumars wrote: post #65
eVeechu7 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am pretty sure this update does not add FUSE support. FUSE would add the ability to use SSHFS, which is the network file system support I'm interested in. If FUSE would be useful to you, please vote for it at https://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/266908-command-prompt-con...

There is a Windows-native SSHFS client[1]. I have it installed on a Win10 VM so can confirm it "works" albeit I haven't needed to use it for anything so cannot confirm how well it works. [1] https://github.com/Foreveryone-cz/win-sshfs I think is the currently maintained version but you're welcome to confirm that independently.

I helped resurrect this to support Windows 10 a year or so ago. It works, but because of its reliance on Dokany (a FUSE-like usermode file system library), there are a lot of ways it still doesn't work perfectly.

It was a lifesaver for me when I was doing development on embedded Linux devices (Pi/Edison et al). But if you're not tied to remote hardware, WSL is an infinitely better, faster, much more reliable dev process.

The biggest issue I ran into with win-sshfs was its tendency to bodge git repo status if you maintained the repo on the mapped folder.

Re: File System Improvements to the Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by noen »

chx wrote: post #67
ghshephard wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likewise - except for me it's been 15 years. Switched over in 2001, and didn't look back. Running WSL creators edition is really a delight. It's not quite there yet - still has a year or two to bake - but the progress is great. They just added serial support yesterday (which is important for a bunch of the linux binaries I run). For the very first time I'm honestly considering sitting down to a Windows System to do w…

For me at least the big problem is malware. Running Arch Linux means I do not need to worry about malware. Ransomware. Crap like that. Yes, I am a reasonably experienced computer user and it's quite unlikely I would click anything "wrong" but not having to worry about a single bad click causing hours of recovery is a big plus. Edit: while I understand downvotes I would be much happier if you'd educate me where I am w…

If you avoid the darknet/warez and use Windows defender and Windows security essentials (MS antivirus), you will largely forget this was ever an issue with Windows.

Even my parents, love them, haven't had a single piece of malware or a virus since I forced Windows 10 upon them (from Windows 7). They were not happy at first, but the number of calls I get for "why is my computer so slow" and "what is this thing that keeps popping up" have dropped to 0.

Re: File System Improvements to the Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by abhirag »

laumars wrote: post #65
eVeechu7 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am pretty sure this update does not add FUSE support. FUSE would add the ability to use SSHFS, which is the network file system support I'm interested in. If FUSE would be useful to you, please vote for it at https://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/266908-command-prompt-con...

There is a Windows-native SSHFS client[1]. I have it installed on a Win10 VM so can confirm it "works" albeit I haven't needed to use it for anything so cannot confirm how well it works. [1] https://github.com/Foreveryone-cz/win-sshfs I think is the currently maintained version but you're welcome to confirm that independently.

Yes SSHFS support would be great, till then WinSCP(https://winscp.net/eng/download.php) helps reduce my troubles a bit.

Re: File System Improvements to the Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by lottin »

chx wrote: post #67
ghshephard wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likewise - except for me it's been 15 years. Switched over in 2001, and didn't look back. Running WSL creators edition is really a delight. It's not quite there yet - still has a year or two to bake - but the progress is great. They just added serial support yesterday (which is important for a bunch of the linux binaries I run). For the very first time I'm honestly considering sitting down to a Windows System to do w…

For me at least the big problem is malware. Running Arch Linux means I do not need to worry about malware. Ransomware. Crap like that. Yes, I am a reasonably experienced computer user and it's quite unlikely I would click anything "wrong" but not having to worry about a single bad click causing hours of recovery is a big plus. Edit: while I understand downvotes I would be much happier if you'd educate me where I am w…

Malware, spyware built into the system and the fact that it's not open source, meaning the whole thing it's basically an unmaintainable black box.

Re: File System Improvements to the Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by [deleted] »

chx wrote: post #67
ghshephard wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likewise - except for me it's been 15 years. Switched over in 2001, and didn't look back. Running WSL creators edition is really a delight. It's not quite there yet - still has a year or two to bake - but the progress is great. They just added serial support yesterday (which is important for a bunch of the linux binaries I run). For the very first time I'm honestly considering sitting down to a Windows System to do w…

For me at least the big problem is malware. Running Arch Linux means I do not need to worry about malware. Ransomware. Crap like that. Yes, I am a reasonably experienced computer user and it's quite unlikely I would click anything "wrong" but not having to worry about a single bad click causing hours of recovery is a big plus. Edit: while I understand downvotes I would be much happier if you'd educate me where I am w…

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