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Re: Walking in L.A.

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Santa Monica isn't LA, like San Jose isn't SF. And anyways, Seattle and even Portland beat both of them.

I would argue that Santa Monica is much closer to LA in proximity and culture that SJ is to SF.

Sure, SF is a much smaller city area wise than LA. There is a lot in between SF and SJ, Santa Monica borders LA.

Re: Walking in L.A.

#72
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So as somebody who lives in London, explain to me why Los Angeles always looks so featureless, so lacking in any kind of urban identity I'd expect to find in a city? It always looks to me no so much as a city, but rather merely some buildings that are connected by freeways.

City of Quartz, by Mike Davis is a good book on the city's architecture.

It's a young city, relatively speaking, and it grew up with the automobile - leading to the infamous sprawl you see today.

It's a city that's meant to be experienced by car (historically), meaning that many things are primarily accessible by car, to the extent that without a car you were basically of another class, kept out of the various "fortresses" (shopping malls, etc.)

Hence the famous song, "nobody walks in LA."

Re: Walking in L.A.

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Why is it important to point out that Santa Monica isn't the same as the city of Los Angeles? If you live there, you probably know already. If you don't live there, it doesn't matter anyway. They're neighbors. And it's not like Santa Monica is any more culturally unique than the dozens of communities that make up L.A. proper.

LA is kind of a bad place to live, Santa Monica isn't. No one would confuse San Jose with San Francisco, Evans if they didn't live there.

Living in LA could mean anything from Brentwood or Bel Air (which I'd strongly argue are not bad places to live) to ghettos in South Central. Most people speak in terms of neighborhoods in LA, and most people consider Santa Monica a kind of neighborhood in LA even though it's a separate city.

Like if I say I live in Marina Del Rey and I have a friend in Santa Monica invite me over, it's not a big deal. That's what important. If I live in SF and a friend in San Jose invites me over, I'm like hmmm do I really want to drive an hour..

Re: Walking in L.A.

#74
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So as somebody who lives in London, explain to me why Los Angeles always looks so featureless, so lacking in any kind of urban identity I'd expect to find in a city? It always looks to me no so much as a city, but rather merely some buildings that are connected by freeways.

The baseline architecture is pretty bland, admittedly. But what makes LA an awesome city is not so much what is captured in photos but the whole experience of beautiful, sunny weather all year, hill-top views of the massive expansiveness of the LA basin, the mix of suburban vibes within a sprawling metropolis (e.g. you can be on a quiet suburban-style street in Beverly Hills, then go down a couple blocks and you'll be in the middle of bustling Rodeo Drive), and its diversity of people and niches. It's also a far more livable city than cities like San Francisco, especially if you're not rich.

Re: Walking in L.A.

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As a foreigner who's been to both, I'd say LA is a little better. There seems to be less urine in the streets. If you're talking about pure visual aesthetics, I'd also say LA wins, just by a little and primarily because of Santa Monica. In the grand scheme of things though, I don't think either rank very high, even among American cities. Chicago and New York have far nicer architecture.

Santa Monica isn't LA, like San Jose isn't SF. And anyways, Seattle and even Portland beat both of them.

Well, both LA and Santa Monica are part of Los Angeles County. Plus, Santa Monica is bordered on all sides by the actual city of LA. People frequently do refer to many cities in the county as living in LA.

San Jose and San Francisco are in separate counties and are 48 miles apart, while downtown LA to Santa Monica is 16 miles. Also they do not border each other.

Re: Walking in L.A.

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So as somebody who lives in London, explain to me why Los Angeles always looks so featureless, so lacking in any kind of urban identity I'd expect to find in a city? It always looks to me no so much as a city, but rather merely some buildings that are connected by freeways.

I last visited LA when I was ten years old, I don't remember much apart from it being a huge expanse of tarmac with a few buildings dotted around. It doesn't look far from the truth now, utterly dominated by the car.

Re: Walking in L.A.

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So as somebody who lives in London, explain to me why Los Angeles always looks so featureless, so lacking in any kind of urban identity I'd expect to find in a city? It always looks to me no so much as a city, but rather merely some buildings that are connected by freeways.

> It always looks to me no so much as a city, but rather merely some buildings that are connected by freeways.

I've lived in LA for a number of years, and that's a pretty accurate statement. Also, there are a lot of people and cars.

It's not a livable city. It's basically a big mess.

Re: Walking in L.A.

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I'm going to assume you have never been to LA. Just like London it is a collection of "villages". What were originally separate cities: Santa Monica, Hollywood, Pasadena etc have all been absorbed into the whole that is LA. I'm sure you can recognize the same process in london where Hampstead and Stratford have distinct personalities and yet are now both a small part of the whole that is London. Now LA, unlike London…

I recommend "Los Angeles Plays Itself" to any interested in seeing the juxtaposition of what you see in movies/tv with the reality. There's also a much shorter, funnier one called "Vancouver Never Plays Itself" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojm74VGsZBU

At first I thought the title was a play on this meme:

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/056/730/597...

Re: Walking in L.A.

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Santa Monica isn't LA, like San Jose isn't SF. And anyways, Seattle and even Portland beat both of them.

I would argue that Santa Monica is much closer to LA in proximity and culture that SJ is to SF.

FWIW, I see Santa Monica as being more akin to Berkeley, or even San Francisco, than to LA.

To me, Santa Monica's politics seem much more engaging, idealistic and left-leaning than those of LA. Santa Monica is also much wealthier, on average, than LA.

Because of its greater wealth (or its idealism, you decide) Santa Monica seems to be a better run city with what appear to be better maintained streets and public facilities. It's the kind of city LA residents like to escape to from time to time, if they can afford it.

It's perhaps relevant that Stephen Miller, an influential element of the Trump administration, forged his identity as a reactionary provocateur in the politically correct crucible of Santa Monica High School.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trump-advisor-steph...

Just my 2 cents ...

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