The Mac Pro Lives • Hacker News Board

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by TheRealDunkirk » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:55 PM UTC

doppel wrote: post #60

I am really curious what Apple feel constitutes "pro" apps. "Software development" is mentioned, but the general sentiment from Hacker News and developers I have talked to seems to be that Apple do not understand their "Pro" audience, at least when it comes to the Macbook Pro (granted, it's a different beast than Mac Pro).

FTFA:

> Apple’s research shows that 15 percent of all Mac users use at least one “pro” app frequently. These are apps for things like music creation, video editing, graphic design, and software development.

> Schiller, on Apple’s own pro apps: “I just want to reiterate our strong commitment there, as well. Both with Final Cut Pro 10 and Logic 10, there are teams on those software products that are completely dedicated to delivering great pro software to our customers.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by rodionos » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:55 PM UTC

I have read quite a few confusing things about new MBPs. I'll probably stay put for another year before bailing out of the Apple ecosystem (aka distortion field).

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by LordKano » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:55 PM UTC

tambourine_man wrote: post #59

The original iMac, you never would’ve thought as remotely touching pro uses. Not true at all, it was G3 almost as fast as Apple's then PowerMac. The only "problem" was that USB was slow compared to SCSI. But I used it for PRO work for years. Great value for the money

When the iMac was introduced, I worked at an Apple dealer. I can still remember one client who used to do video production work on an iMac. There may have been others but I distinctly remember one.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by throw2016 » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:55 PM UTC

Apple should not lose focus of their roots. They need to remain committed to desktops and laptops. With Ryzen there are now tons more options.

While the iPhone and iPad businesses are solid, they can be cyclical and nowhere near as robust as their core faithful mac users who have stuck with them for decades.

Few professionals are going to muck about with a hackintosh and I mean no disrespect to those who muck about. I have done it myself, and its great as a curiosity and to learn but at a point you just need to get things done and have proper seamless hardware support for all the peripherals for pro level work.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by treehau5 » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:58 PM UTC

markdog12 wrote: post #63

I shudder to think of the price of the iMac Pro.

But it's going to be amazing.

It's going to be an iPod, a Phone, AND an internet communications device

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by teekert » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:59 PM UTC

I though it was gonna take Adobe saying: "We are working on CS for the latest Ubuntu LTS" before this was going to happen.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by SG- » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:59 PM UTC

sparkling wrote: post #22

Too late. Hackintosh is up and running.

And if you're a pro user you'll need to upgrade in 1-3 years anyways so...?

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by TheRealDunkirk » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 1:00 PM UTC

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #68

cooper12 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Gruber addresses this pretty well: they already took the silent approach, but it was becoming unsustainable with their pro market, whose needs were not being met. If they just did a small hardware bump, they'd be projecting that they'd given up on the pro and they'd lose a lot of loyalty and goodwill. People can only wait so long so this info helps to keep them interested and bring the term "Apple" back into…

Missing the point though. It's not just the hardware, it's the trust. A lot of pros will be thinking "So why should I buy New MacPro if they're only going to let the line stagnate again?"

Apple said entire point of the redesign is to make the machine modular, so that it can be upgraded down the line, specifically addressing this concern. I guess it's up to each person to determine for themselves whether to believe it.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by simonbarker87 » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 1:00 PM UTC

ynniv wrote: post #65

a pro machine that demanded placement on your desk, not under your desk ... and that's how Apple lost the professionals. The desk is a clean space for a huge monitor / keyboard / mouse, and MY work. It's good to make a workstation that looks nice, but it's ten times as good to make one that's flexible and powerful. The only people who want that workstation on the desktop are the designers at Apple, and stroking your…

I wouldn't take that too literally, firstly those are Gruber's words and secondly, there isn't anything stopping you putting the Mac Pro on the floor so long as the cables reach.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by samdoshi » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 1:01 PM UTC

This feels very reactionary to me.

That fact that the new Mac Pros will not be out till next year makes it sound like they've only started working on it quite recently, perhaps in response to the furore over their treatment of their professional users.