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Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by tracker1 »

yiwang110 wrote: post #64
LyalinDotCom wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Due to licensing complexity of today's installer we just can't make the ISO for you but in the link above as you pointed out you can create your own. We're sorry for that but its what we can offer today.

"Due to licensing complexity of today's installer" - LOL If there is licensing complexity in making an ISO file, just make a ZIP file of the whole thing.

The licensing complexity comes from things like downloading cordova and the android sdk, etc... Which are options that you can select. Distributing in ISO form, would mean changing the installer license, as opposed to optional licenses to agree to, you have to then composite the whole.

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by xorblurb »

pjmlp wrote: post #61
pornel wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly no mention of any improvements to their C compiler :( The C99 support is still incomplete and it looks like MS has given up on C.

It is called Visual C++ and hence the focus is on C++. The only C related updates are done to the extent as required by ANSI C++. For anyone else that still wants to write straight C, there are other compilers and Microsoft has integrated clang's frontend with VC++ backend. This has already been communicated in a few places. Cloudfare's crash just proved once more why the world needs less C.

Your last sentence is curious because it's highly debatable whether the world needs less C to get more C++ ...

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by gnud »

mistermann wrote: post #66

For those who don't know, VS community is feature wise almost identical to professional, less CodeLens, Azure benefits, and TFS features. https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/compare/

Note that you can't use VS community for your work if your organization has either of 1) more than 5 developers 2) more than $1 mill in revenue 3) more than 250 computers

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by xorblurb »

douche wrote: post #68

Someday I hope it finally gets ported to x64 so that it can use more than a tiny fraction of the RAM in my desktop, instead of page thrashing all the time.

There seems to be some people in the IDE team who believe that a 32-bits only IDE is a feature and not a bug, including for reasons as fun as because it crashes sooner in case of memory leaks... I guess eventually those people will move to other things and/or the market pressure will be such that we will see a 64-bits IDE. Just don't know exactly when...

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

LyalinDotCom wrote: post #46
romanovcode wrote: post #43

I'm super excited about VS2017. But excuse me this launch video (beginning, with Chinese presenter) is super cringe-inducing. Horrible.

We're a worldwide company that embraces diversity and benefits hugely for it, so honestly I am disappointed very much with your comment.

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Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by hailmike »

mistermann wrote: post #70
LyalinDotCom wrote: post #8

Its a great sense of relief to finally ship this product, we really hope folks give it a try and join our live keynote which is streaming now at http://launch.visualstudio.com

One complaint....the installer doesn't seem to show required disk space per component....with the features I've chose the install is 40 GB!!! I don't have nearly that room on my SSD but that's where I want it, but there's no way of knowing if I can pare my install down to fit in what I do have!

I had the same 40.8 GB surprise. ~34 GB was Xamarin.

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by gruez »

gnud wrote: post #75
mistermann wrote: post #66

For those who don't know, VS community is feature wise almost identical to professional, less CodeLens, Azure benefits, and TFS features. https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/compare/

Note that you can't use VS community for your work if your organization has either of 1) more than 5 developers 2) more than $1 mill in revenue 3) more than 250 computers

>more than 5 developers

*more than 5 developers using visual studio community

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by yiwang110 »

tracker1 wrote: post #71
yiwang110 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Due to licensing complexity of today's installer" - LOL If there is licensing complexity in making an ISO file, just make a ZIP file of the whole thing.

The licensing complexity comes from things like downloading cordova and the android sdk, etc... Which are options that you can select. Distributing in ISO form, would mean changing the installer license, as opposed to optional licenses to agree to, you have to then composite the whole.

easy - how about making cordova, android sdks, etc as a downloadable component after the main Visual Studio is installed?
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