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Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Except when Twitter makes that a heuristic for detecting bots, then they'll soon stop tweeting the same text twice.

Yes, they'll need an adaptive system. This is a (mostly) solved problem already - just look at your Gmail spam folder.

Are you suggesting to get a Gmail account, turn on the setting that makes Twitter email you notifications, mark tweets as spam in Gmail, and then use Google's spam detection as an existence proof of a solution if it's successful?

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

#72
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There are massive bot farms on Twitter that are obvious to even casual observers and most of them don't have "egg" accounts anymore. Look at the auto-replies to any political tweet, major news story, or from a popular account, all automated garbage that follows the same template. Why Twitter ignores the crap which pollutes their product is amazing to me. Maybe they don't want to touch them because it ups the engageme…

"500.000 new Members last month!!1" (I just totally made that up)

I suspect its the same as facebooks "2 Billion Users" - its just good for PR to have huge numbers. If you look too closely you might even lose Members in a Month, and we all know "growth" is very important..

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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I agree with this 100%. These types of people have been around for centuries, the only difference is now they have a mouthpiece and encouragement. Use your block button, it's free.

One quibble: the block button is not free, it takes time, and we have limited time. Say, 60 presses/minute? When you have 3000 harassers, including many bots, is it worth spending nearly an hour blocking them? There are third party tools that make the block button cost less, but it would be even better if they were built in to Twitter, and even better yet if the bot networks were not allowed.

Good point, I've never been harassed at that level before.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Interested to see how penalizing accounts for 'repeatedly tweeting at non-followers' is going to work when most of what I see on the platform is people messaging celebs who don't follow them back

That sounds like an informal description of a heuristic to flag accounts as potentially abusive rather than a specific rule with a specific punishment.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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> The question then becomes is the necessity of having a twitter account "part of being an adult"? I'm not saying the harassment is right, mind you, and certainly doxxing and real (as in tangible) physical threats should be treated as the criminal acts that they are, but I don't think it's something that can ever really be remedied unless the victim removes themselves from the situation. Oh, then we should just give…

>Stop normalizing evil. Doing so literally-not-figuratively arms those who would do harm to the people among us who need our support. Show them the door, not their victims. To be completely fair, they will remove people for blatantly racist/sexist/homophobic tweets, and often do, where "f * white males" talk is completely allowed there.

Won't someone think of the white males?

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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The harassment from Twitter is everywhere on both sides of the political spectrum though. You're painting a very one sided picture. I'm not attacking you here I'm just saying there is a narrative about the "alt-right" harassing the innocent leftists and it's not the whole picture. I'm a (democrat) mixed race woman, and I get more harassment and vitriol from "tolerant liberals" when I post anything remotely in support…

If Twitter wants to show the alt-left tools the door too, I'm certainly not gonna cape up for them. But there is a difference of orders of magnitude in both size and cohesiveness to wrestle with here, and it's not towards the burned Bernie bros. That alt-left doesn't have members of state-blessed media outlets (well, until recently, when cheering on pedophilia became a little too much for them) on campus tours where…

But there is a difference of orders of magnitude in both size and cohesiveness to wrestle with here

The most non-snarky way I can put this is: "Citation needed".

Something that is a left leaning/liberal phenomenon almost exclusively from my experiences is the propensity for shouting a statement into public, and then claiming that anyone who has the temerity to reply to their tweet with anything other than wholehearted agreement is "harassing them", and then immediately blocking them.

The right leaning/conservative types tend to argue back with you, perhaps using strong language. Conservatives tend to call you an idiot libtard sheep, liberals tend to call you a racist sexist bigot.

(This is one of the benefits of being centrist: both sides don't like you.)

This happens when replying to liberal leaning commenters with such regularity that I have taken to mentally rewriting "harass" to "disagree" in the context of Twitter.

I've been blocked and called a harasser on Twitter for calling shenanigans on a comment in a much more gentle way than I did above. Have I just harassed you? Twitter's community, and increasingly, their management, would say yes.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Yes, they'll need an adaptive system. This is a (mostly) solved problem already - just look at your Gmail spam folder.

Are you suggesting to get a Gmail account, turn on the setting that makes Twitter email you notifications, mark tweets as spam in Gmail, and then use Google's spam detection as an existence proof of a solution if it's successful?

No, he's saying people by-and-large can't defeat Gmail's spam detection.

The same will likely happen at twitter.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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post #40

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If you tweet 100s of times the same text at accounts that don't follow you, you're a bot.

Except when Twitter makes that a heuristic for detecting bots, then they'll soon stop tweeting the same text twice.

Quants have ruled the business landscape for long enough, bring on the Quals.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

#79
post #20

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> The question then becomes is the necessity of having a twitter account "part of being an adult"? I'm not saying the harassment is right, mind you, and certainly doxxing and real (as in tangible) physical threats should be treated as the criminal acts that they are, but I don't think it's something that can ever really be remedied unless the victim removes themselves from the situation. Oh, then we should just give…

The harassment from Twitter is everywhere on both sides of the political spectrum though. You're painting a very one sided picture. I'm not attacking you here I'm just saying there is a narrative about the "alt-right" harassing the innocent leftists and it's not the whole picture. I'm a (democrat) mixed race woman, and I get more harassment and vitriol from "tolerant liberals" when I post anything remotely in support…

Yeah, the thing that's probably ultimately going to limit the life of Twitter's latest automated anti-abuse measures is that left-wingers who fire nasty, vitrolic, vulgarity-filled tweets and invitations to kill themselves at users on the right are also getting their accounts automatically put in time out or even suspended for it, and they're getting really pissed off about it. Sooner or later the press is going to get hold of a sufficiently sympathetic example and that'll be it.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Having concerted bombs of right-wing harassment drop on one's head for having the temerity to do something like "be a woman with political opinions" is not part of being an adult. And that's the reality of Twitter right now. This isn't nearly enough; actually showing the trackable legions of smurf-account harassers the door might be beyond Twitter's meager capabilities at the moment (after all, they only have a small…

> including "automatically block accounts under X days old that @ me" How can a new user (who isn't a harasser) engage with the Twitter service if they get auto-blocked when they try to engage with anyone on the platform?

If "engage" means "HA HA U SUK TRUMP UR AZZ MAKE ME A SANDWICH" then maybe Twitter isn't a good place for them.
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