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Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

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Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

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post #34

I think Microsoft should implement basic aggregation functions first.

Implementing aggregation at query time is a temporary solution. For systems like this aggregation should be done on insert time - many hugely popular databases do not provide much more than a basic get operation for this reason

Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

#72
post #14

AWS needs something like this. The missing piece for the AWS serverless story is a database that is suitable for writing real world applications. DynamoDB is far from suitable for that task, which leaves AWS serverless with no good database.

Cross datacenter replication is the missing piece from AWS. I wish they'd just roll out a hosted Cassandra or something identical

Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

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post #71
post #34

I think Microsoft should implement basic aggregation functions first.

Implementing aggregation at query time is a temporary solution. For systems like this aggregation should be done on insert time - many hugely popular databases do not provide much more than a basic get operation for this reason

You might be right but Mongo supports them and Microsoft says that we can start using DocumentDb without changing any line of code which is not true.

Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

#74
post #39

Never looked at DocumentDB before. So if I get this straight, I can get a fully managed DB that can scale easily, but still have all the advantages and compatibility of a regular NoSQL like Mongo? I think that's a first, right?

Except that the advantages and compatibility are not all there. Plus there are now fully managed options for the real thing.

Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

#75
post #39

Never looked at DocumentDB before. So if I get this straight, I can get a fully managed DB that can scale easily, but still have all the advantages and compatibility of a regular NoSQL like Mongo? I think that's a first, right?

Percona have their drop-in MongoDB replacement that uses TokuMX under the hood and they'll manage it for you.

TokuMX was discontinued last year

MongoDB Atlas will manage MongoDB for you

Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

#76

Interesting... So compatible with Mongodb protocol but not using mongodb internally ? What is your view of services, which provide functionality of some other software or SAAS and is API / Protocol compatible ? Can API / protocols be copyrighted or patented? I believe not based on Google vs Oracle.

Hasn't tokuMX already put a 'proper' solid DB behind the mongo API?

TokuMX was discontinued last year

Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably around the same time ops were deemed useless :) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13644789

I saw that chain too. I guess I do devops differently. Since I'm bootstrapping I don't have money for an ops person. So I've set about learning ufw, let's encrypt, nginx/tls termination to a service only accepting local connections to the port, etc. I see devops as the developer learning the ops side to take responsibility for the whole stack.

As a dev, I've been going through the same process for several months now. Honestly, for each of the concepts I've come across (ufw, let's encrypt, etc), you might bang your head for a few days with each one but you will eventually get it. I don't know why people make it out to be so difficult.

Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

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post #73
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Implementing aggregation at query time is a temporary solution. For systems like this aggregation should be done on insert time - many hugely popular databases do not provide much more than a basic get operation for this reason

You might be right but Mongo supports them and Microsoft says that we can start using DocumentDb without changing any line of code which is not true.

Yeah I don't get why they're marketing to Mongo users, weird choice. This is a DB for companies trying to moved to a query-less architecture - something no one should be doing with mongo

Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

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When users have evaluated DocumentDB against MongoDB, they see major shortcomings in Microsoft's offering:

"As we were developing our new financial benchmarking service last year, we evaluated Microsoft’s Azure DocumentDB, but MongoDB offered much richer query and indexing functionality"

KPMG France https://www.mongodb.com/blog/post/kpmg-france-enters-the-clo...

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