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I had to revert the Windows 10 Anniversary Update to work around that.
why?
Attacking the Windows Nvidia Driver
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Oh I report bugs all the time. For open source projects. When I pay hundreds of euros for a product I expect it to work. Strangely it something we don't expect for anything related to computing. We have such double standard. If you buy a washing machine and it doesn't work, the brand sucks. If you buy a graphic card that makes you OS crash, it's just nvidia needs a little help. Replace nvidia with any gadget or softw…
I know what you're saying, and I do agree, but as you know, not all problems will be Nvidia's fault. I guess it depends on how obscure/serious the bug is, but the reason we can't have everything working always is because people want to be able to put whatever random hardware and software of their choice together and have it all work. It's not that simple. There's a lot of stuff that has to go right for things to not…
It's the vendors that want to be everywhere to make more money. But they can't provide the quality with the increasing complexity.
That's why Apple's setups are often considered good quality. They solved the problem by limiting the hardware and software combinations.
I dislike Apple but I can at least see that their strategy worked.
The problem I got with this is that proprietary software has the same order of magnitude of problems that free software has. But I paid for the first one, and people writing it are paid.
I can accept bugs in FOSS because of it's very nature. But if you can't give me a guaranty that my product will work, what did I pay for ?
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Too bad my laptop can't use those crimson drivers, as AMD no longer support the APU part of the setup that make things like external displays work (and will you please stop trying to be helpful and silently "upgrading" my drivers, Microsoft!).
You can disable driver updates through group policy. https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc730606(v=ws.10...
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#74> Most of the vulnerabilities found ... were very basic mistakes, such as writing to user provided pointers blindly, disclosing uninitialised kernel memory to user mode, and incorrect bounds checking. It's not just Windows drivers with these problems...
The patches from Tuesday fixed a total of 16 CVEs. 11 are Windows only, 4 are Windows+Unix[1], 1 is Unix only. 3 of those (Windows) CVEs were reported externally.
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4398
Older bulletins: http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-security.html
[1]: Unix in NVIDIA-speak generally means Linux+Solaris+FreeBSD
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#75Slightly off topic but with all the video expertise in this thread, I want to ask anyway! :-) I'm currently selecting parts for my next computer, to be used for continued development of the Windows .NET software for the Web site for my startup and also for my first Web server available to beta testers and then to the public on the Internet. So, sure, I need a video card. Of course, I will do some routine Web browsing…
First of all, if your CPU has an integrated GPU, and you don't need more monitors than it supports (usually it's 3x1080p), that will be more than enough.
> Why should I move from just VGA, that is, get just a VGA card and not even get a graphics card?
I don't quite understand what you mean by VGA card. You mean something that has a VGA adapter and framebuffer(s), but the rendering is done on the CPU?
I wasn't aware those still exist outside some niche markets. I'd guess it'd cost about as much as an entry level GPU, which will take the load off your CPU.
My advice, if you don't have any iGPU on your CPU, is to just get the lowest tier graphics card. Those are When it comes to web browsing and watching videos, any remotely recent card will work fine. You may have issues with some fancy WebGL pages (i.e. browser games) but that hardly counts as everyday browsing.
Be sure to read a review of the card before purchasing!
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> Why in hell would you spend hours of work on your free time for this ? Sure, you can either return the items, or report the bug, or hope that you've managed to find a workaround. There's no need to discourage people who want to spend their own time on getting the bug fixed so that others benefit. Not everybody thinks the same way you do.
Oh I report bugs all the time. For open source projects. When I pay hundreds of euros for a product I expect it to work. Strangely it something we don't expect for anything related to computing. We have such double standard. If you buy a washing machine and it doesn't work, the brand sucks. If you buy a graphic card that makes you OS crash, it's just nvidia needs a little help. Replace nvidia with any gadget or softw…
Re: Attacking the Windows Nvidia Driver
#77Slightly off topic but with all the video expertise in this thread, I want to ask anyway! :-) I'm currently selecting parts for my next computer, to be used for continued development of the Windows .NET software for the Web site for my startup and also for my first Web server available to beta testers and then to the public on the Internet. So, sure, I need a video card. Of course, I will do some routine Web browsing…
Disclaimer: NVIDIA employee. First of all, if your CPU has an integrated GPU, and you don't need more monitors than it supports (usually it's 3x1080p), that will be more than enough. > Why should I move from just VGA, that is, get just a VGA card and not even get a graphics card? I don't quite understand what you mean by VGA card. You mean something that has a VGA adapter and framebuffer(s), but the rendering is done…
The CPU I plan is the AMD FX-8350 with 8 cores running at 4.0 GHz and 125 Watts. So, no it has no integrated graphics support.
For a "VGA card", I just meant a video card supporting all the old VGA standards but without a graphics processor. So, there would be no "hardware acceleration" of OpenGL 4.5 (or some such) or DirectX 12 (some version of). Yes, there would be a standard VGA plug (socket, connector, etc.) for the signal connection to the monitor, but many high end graphics cards also have that.
Yes, looking, it's possible to find just a VGA card, that uses an old PCI slot, for about $20. But, a low end graphics card can go for about $30 or $36 with 1 GB of memory of its own, a graphics processor, and "support", likely hardware acceleration, of OpenGL and DirectX.
Apparently by Windows 10, DirectX 12 is regarded as a standard part of Windows.
In my old computer, I assembled in 2007, which apparently due to motherboard hardware problems, does blue screen of death (BSOD), really, the screen goes black instead of blue, about five times a day, has an old nVIDIA GX 4000 with 64 MB of memory. As far as I know, the card has been fine. I never knew that the card had any graphics capabilities until two weeks ago when I ran the standard Windows utility DXDIAG which showed that the card supports DirectX 9 and the card put up a nice rotating cube of the DirectX logo. Okay. So, maybe the graphics processor in the card can accept a gazillion triangles in 3D from the CPU, motherboard, and applications software, do rotations, hidden line removal, shading, maybe texturing, etc. Okay, but since 2007 that is the first time I ever saw such a thing!
I have been concerned about statements, e.g., that some graphics card needed for the PC's power supply to have capacity 300 Watts or more. Gads! That's a lot of power! Looking in more detail, apparently such graphics cards actually draw a maximum of only 25-40 Watts at 12 Volts, that is, You are correct about WebGL -- I doubt I will be visiting Web sites that use that. I'm less clear about scalable vector graphics (SVG). I don't see even from 50,000 feet up how ordinary Web browsing, say, displaying JPG or PNG still images or playing MPG4, YouTube or Netflix, or DVD videos could be helped by having a graphics processor -- tough to find such explanations. Do graphics processors routinely help display fonts faster?
I will have a 2 TB hard drive for bootable partitions. I will install Windows 7 Professional 64 bit on two boot drive partitions, say, drive letters C and D, and use one of those for my remaining software development for my Web site. Using likely the standard Windows utility NTBACKUP, which I like (e.g., it will backup a bootable partition while it is running, likely much like how relational database does a backup of a database while it is executing transactions and I can save it to any disk drive I want just by an ordinary copy operation) I will save both bootable partitions to a second hard drive. Then if, say, partiton D gets sick and the usual Windows restore is not good enough, I will boot partition C and restore the sick partition D from one of my NTBACKUPs on the second drive.
Some years ago when I was trying to install an Express (free) version of Microsoft's SQL Server, my boot partition contents were corrupted, really, destroyed, and I had to reinstall everything starting with an empty partition. Bummer. I want NEVER to have to do that again: Before I do any possibly dangerous maintenance, installations, or upgrades to a bootable partition, I will just save the whole partition with NTBACKUP. Then, if the partition gets messed up, I will just boot another bootable partition and restore the backup from NTBACKUP and try again.
Then I will install, again on two partitions, some version of Windows Server, likely 2012, and SQL Server of about the same vintage, and that will be the basis of my Web site as I go for beta testing and live on the Internet.
The Web site HTML sent to my users will be only just dirt simple HTML, say, up to date as of about 10 years ago, with just a little, simple CSS and nearly no JavaScript, no pop-ups, roll-overs, pull-downs, over-lays, or icons and no HTML elements (tags?) -- dirt simple. I will have a simple logo graphics PNG I developed with just Microsoft's PhotoDraw, and that will be the only use of graphics. Net, for the Web site, I see no need for any graphics hardware, for development, server, or clients.
I see from both nVIDIA and ATI graphics cards $30-$40 with 1 GB memory, OpenGL, DirectX 12 that use a PCI-Express x16 version 2.1 slot. The Asus motherboard I have in mind has a PCI Express x16 2.0 slot which I suspect one way or another will work well enough with a card that wants version 2.1. I suspect I will make a decision today.
I'm still not very clear on just why I need a graphics card instead of just an old VGA card, but for just another $16 I'm going to spend the money, accept whatever system management mud wrestling I have to do to get an appropriate device driver working, quit worrying about the card, and get on with the more important work.
Thanks for the info.