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“We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”

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Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”

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I can't understand, is storing pure text too expensive for IMDB which is owned by Amazon which runs half the servers of the planet? Why don't they keep the threads while disabling new discussions?

I've battled spam at another film site. If my experience is anything to go by, even mentioning the word "spam" is enough to make smoke come out of the operators' ears. They tried to delete the spam and abuse when it was posted, but some slipped through and leads to new support requests and new complaints even now. Sorry if that sounded exasperated.

Yeah but his point is it's one thing to disable new posts or comments, but just archive what's there instead of removing it.

Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've battled spam at another film site. If my experience is anything to go by, even mentioning the word "spam" is enough to make smoke come out of the operators' ears. They tried to delete the spam and abuse when it was posted, but some slipped through and leads to new support requests and new complaints even now. Sorry if that sounded exasperated.

Yeah but his point is it's one thing to disable new posts or comments, but just archive what's there instead of removing it.

And my answer is that there's a stream of new complaints even about what's there.

Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”

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This is pretty bad move and here's why: IMDb relies on users using the site, editing entries, facts, quotes and correcting things.

These are the community, and they are movie fans, hardcore fans, the reason why IMDb continues. The "db" in IMDb has been created, by hand, by volunteers - the users who use the message board.

IMDb has totally overlooked the value of the Message Boards - they are for the community. Remove this and IMDb as a whole will suffer.

Consider this comparison: Imagine if Wikipedia said that it was only going to have Facebook logins for editors. All user pages were being deleted, no user meetups were allowed and no meta discussion about pages was allowed, but only that normal articles, the main thing non editors read were to be kept. Thats a stretched comparison - the idea is the the message boards are how the community works, not just some little addon that non community members don't use.

Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”

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Another nail in the coffin for the open web!

As I mentioned in another comment [1], I read the discussion threads but have never actually contributed to them. I can easily click a link to view all past discussion related to the film I'm interested in without having to sign up and become a member. This would be impossible in Facebook or Twitter where discussion is ephemeral, not conducive to thoughtful expression and not intended for archival or organisation.

It's a real shame that IMDB are just going to remove the boards. Even if they didn't want to allocate resource for maintaining a community, IMDB could have opted to make the forums read-only and keep them as an archive for posterity.

On a tangential note, IMDB is one of the few sites where I see ads because they're not using third-party trackers (as far as Privacy Badger can tell).

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13571893#13572081

Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”

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This is incredibly sad news. I have been a regular reader of IMDb message boards for over 15 years now. It's the last actual forum that I still visit. There's so much valuable information stored on those boards, it's a tragedy to see it get deleted. Sure the most popular movie threads might be filled with toxic flamewars, but the long tail of more obscure movies has reasonable discussion and human recommendations of…

same here, been user for 14 years. since there was no alternative everyone headed to IMDb boards to discuss movie so you could always find someone, now after destroying the boards not sure where to go, since everyone will try to find some place to discuss movies, though there is none really with critical mass of users i am thinking about trakt.tv though it's just threaded comments, but better than nothing since rotte…

4chan has a television and film board, it's less 4chan than the other boards.

Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That link contains one suit on grounds of ageism and the plaintiff clearly lost: In 2013, Pechman dismissed all causes of action except for a breach of contract claim against IMDb; a jury then sided with IMDb on that claim. Then after the plaintiff refiled the suit: "All claims against IMDB were dismissed by the court in March 2015, handing Hoang zero damages.[41]" That is the only suit regarding ageism for IMDB whic…

But that undoubtedly cost IMDb money. Litigation on its own can be enough to sway the risk/benefit scale, even if the civil complaint is entirely baseless.

>"Litigation on its own can be enough to sway the risk/benefit scale"

We are talking about one frivolous law suit in 16 years of an online presence. I would say by that the risk/benefit ratio is pretty decent.

Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

same here, been user for 14 years. since there was no alternative everyone headed to IMDb boards to discuss movie so you could always find someone, now after destroying the boards not sure where to go, since everyone will try to find some place to discuss movies, though there is none really with critical mass of users i am thinking about trakt.tv though it's just threaded comments, but better than nothing since rotte…

4chan has a television and film board, it's less 4chan than the other boards.

If the IMDB boards were shut down due to the actions of malicious trolls, sending folks in search of a new movie forum to 4chan is rather ironic.

Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”

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Translation: "We thought we would get a community of fans for free. We didn't realize that maintaining a community requires active engagement, setting rules for behavior and enforcing them. We really didn't think anyone would bother being a troll. This is all too expensive to do properly."

i think it might have something to do with litigation. Wikipedia says that they have been sued by actors that got their age revealed on the message board https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMDb#Litigation And now California has a new anti-ageism law; wikipedia says "The bill forces IMDb to comply with requests by the actors featured on its pages to remove information about their age" so they might have decided to close th…

Will the law prevent age information on wikipedia articles? If i google an actors name and age first there is Googles inline information and then links to Wikipedia.
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