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Re: Getting out of the cloud…

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Post by lern_too_spel »

burgerdev wrote: post #35
lern_too_spel wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be clear, you're proposing that users download their entire email storage to their phones and browsers before they can search or spam filter their email? And you think that this would be a compelling product for the average email user? I'm having a hard time figuring out if you're trolling.

Isn't this how pretty much any mail client does it? Thunderbird does a decent job at spam filtering my mail. You know, I can even search folders in Outlook! Saying that scanning your 1M mails with 1kb each requires the use of a cloud service seems a bit over the top.

And how long does that search take? How long does it take to download that mail to a new device? How long would that have been on 2006 Internet? I've never said that it's impossible. I've only said that it takes away the main advantage claimed at launch — fast, working search.

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Post by X86BSD »

marcosdumay wrote: post #60
kirushik wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Where in the campaign was there indication that he'd want to start a war? Just as my 2 cents, Mr. Trump definitely stated several times that he wants to re-thinkthe whole NATO, UN and the international security system in general. I can easily imagine him making the same bold and unprofessional moves as everywhere else. And if that happens, it will definitely open up some new possibilities for international conflict…

He also said he wants to be friendly to Russia and take US troops the hell out of the Mid-West. But well, promising is easy, and he is not the first to promise those exact things.

I think you mean Middle East? The Midwest of the US has not been invaded by American troops. :)

Re: Getting out of the cloud…

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Post by floatboth »

patrickk wrote: post #64
sghiassy wrote: post #13

Can anyone recommend a European alternative for Amazon AWS?

I've heard good things about Hetzner: https://www.hetzner.de/us/hosting/ You get the benefits of strong German privacy laws, on top of the EU's data protection directive[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Protection_Directive

heh, Hetzner literally asked for a scan of my passport when I wanted to get a VPS.

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Post by floatboth »

Taek wrote: post #19

It's things like these that push me so hard in the direction of decentralized cloud applications. Centralized institutions should not be able to see your data, and foreign powers should not be able to command them to drop your data (or otherwise hold it hostage).

But what if I specifically want to store my own personal data in a different country? I want privacy from my government, not from foreign ones!

Re: Getting out of the cloud…

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Post by hedonistbot »

hedonistbot wrote: post #57

Dear HN, please scale down the panic. >President Trump’s Executive Order calls for federal agencies in the U.S. to ensure that their privacy notices make clear that Privacy Act protections extend only to citizens and permanent residents of the U.S. Importantly, Article 14 of the Order explicitly states that the federal agencies must do so in a manner that is “consistent with applicable law.” In the context of EU-U.S.…

Here is a good summary from Techcrunch. TLDR: the EO shouldn't invalidate Privacy Shield protections, but the whole framework is flawed and does not guarantee privacy of EU citizens. The relevant parts:

> The spokeswoman has now sent us a statement in which the EC asserts that Privacy Shield “does not rely on the protections under the U.S. Privacy Act”.

> Critics of Privacy Shield –– including the lawyer who brought the original challenge against Safe Harbor — have consistently argued the arrangement contains the same fundamental flaws as its invalidated predecessor, given ongoing U.S. government agency surveillance programs accessing European citizens’ data.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/26/trump-order-strips-privacy...

Re: Getting out of the cloud…

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Post by tmalsburg2 »

Ntrails wrote: post #51
TeMPOraL wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Starting to think the Trump presidency will be great for Europe I'm in Europe and I'm getting seriously worried the US will start the Third World War within coming months...

Why? What warmongering have you seen? What has been done thus far that wasn't broadcasted in the campaign? Where in the campaign was there indication that he'd want to start a war? I'm not saying it's impossible that trump could be offensive enough to cause an attack on the US which then results in offensive US action - but I've seen nothing to indicate he'll go looking to do so as a matter of policy. Hyperbole is ev…

Starting wars has historically been a popular and effective tool for consolidating power within the country. So even if Trump doesn't care much about any particular conflict he might start a war anyway if he feels that his power is threatened.

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Post by makapuf »

X86BSD wrote: post #72
marcosdumay wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He also said he wants to be friendly to Russia and take US troops the hell out of the Mid-West. But well, promising is easy, and he is not the first to promise those exact things.

I think you mean Middle East? The Midwest of the US has not been invaded by American troops. :)

Well, tell that to the native Americans :)

Re: Getting out of the cloud…

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Post by Taek »

floatboth wrote: post #74
Taek wrote: post #19

It's things like these that push me so hard in the direction of decentralized cloud applications. Centralized institutions should not be able to see your data, and foreign powers should not be able to command them to drop your data (or otherwise hold it hostage).

But what if I specifically want to store my own personal data in a different country? I want privacy from my government, not from foreign ones!

I'm the case of Sia at least you will have the ability to whitelist and/or blacklist hosts on the network. Which makes it really easy to control which countries do or don't end up with your data.

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Post by devmunchies »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #69
johnbrodie wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Assuming this doesn't happen, there's also a second scenario I fear - the US will say "fuck you Europe" and utterly withdraw, and Russia will get expansionist ideas. This has been one of Trump's points for quite a while now. The USA will no longer subsidize the security of other states, unless there is some method of repayment.

> unless there is some method of repayment Maybe I'm naïve, but I thought a stable, prosperous market on the continent dominated by US products makes it worth it for the US.

> dominated by US products

I'm in the US and most of the product I use were not manufactured here.

Globalism is better for countries sucking on the US's teet but it is bleeding the US dry. The US can't compete against other countries that have no environmental or wage regulations.

Its like every other country feels entitled to the US's resources or something.

Re: Getting out of the cloud…

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Post by Taek »

isolli wrote: post #22
Taek wrote: post #19

It's things like these that push me so hard in the direction of decentralized cloud applications. Centralized institutions should not be able to see your data, and foreign powers should not be able to command them to drop your data (or otherwise hold it hostage).

Can you provide some recommendations?

Full disclosure, I am the founder of Sia, which of course is my favorite and I do believe is far ahead of all the other platforms at this time. https://sia.tech

There is also Storj, MaidSafe, Filecoin, Swarm, and sort-of-but-not-quite IPFS.

Storj and Sia are the front runners for private data like family photos, computer backups, etc. I don't really consider Storj to be decentralized here though.

Swarm I know less about, but I believe their focus is more on file sharing. IPFS is closer to a replacement for http and BitTorrent (both), great for high-demand files or files that are being explicitly hosted on a web server but not so much private data. I think they plan to upgrade this with Filecoin.

MaidSafe is 10 years old and still in alpha. They have huge ambitions but I think too huge, they don't seem capable of publishing things.

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