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Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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Post by languagewars »

ssijak wrote: post #41
ivan_gammel wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's dumb argument, sorry. Disaster relief is temporary and help is provided to people who suffer from external circumstances. Housing for homeless is a daily job for the government and it is different, significantly bigger problem, for which the solution is not affordable for any single private organization or person. Private organizations have limited resources and they have the right to choose whom to support fi…

Well, US gov (Clinton and Obama) created this refugees in the first place. They are all coming from the areas that this administrations ruined in one way or another.

So all US exports should be subject to a 20% tax to make the world great again, right?

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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Post by ivan_gammel »

syshum wrote: post #69
ivan_gammel wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's indeed hard, but it's exactly one of the purposes the government exists for. It's their job which they have to do to justify their existence. You cannot blame any private for-profit organization for not taking the government's job and spending its money for something else.

I dont believe at any point I blamed any private for-profit organization for anything I was taking issue with the assertions that government is the sole, best or even most competent venue to address a social problem like homelessness. I was taking issue the the assertion that government somehow has more resources than the Collective Individuals and Businesses it derives its resources from

It is appointed to be the best and most competent venue to address problems like that. Government is the way "collective individuals and businesses" solve the problems that impact the whole society. Replacing it with something else is appointing yet another government, which will require yet another form of legislation (because there have to be the rules), yet another form of taxation and tax collection (because it will need the money) among many other things necessary for successful governing organization.

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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Post by bogomipz »

petervandijck wrote: post #62
cronjobber wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stunt, then, as AirBNB isn't providing any free housing. You're just going to browbeat people who offered "housing to displaced neighbors and relief workers" to underwrite "your" provision of housing to people who are neither neighbors nor relief workers.

Let's be clear: if you are taking a public stand against the president of the United State who is known to be vindictive, you are taking a stand. ALL OF THEM. It is never just a stunt, because a stunt means there's no risk.

>"It is never just a stunt, because a stunt means there's no risk."

I'm sorry I fail to see what risk has now been assumed by AirBnB by having a cofounder send out a Tweet.

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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Post by [deleted] »

nerfhammer wrote: post #4
edoceo wrote: post #2

Stunt or Stand? So much noise right now it's hard to tell. Hope Time demonstrates this as a genuine move. BigCo with lots of PR weight can really keep the story at the top (or push it over the top)

It's not PR. PR would never be so controversial. This will inevitably stir heaps of outrage from Trump supporters and the Trump administration. It's as much a gesture to make themselves and their own employees feel good. With something on the order of 40% of tech workers born outside of the United States who may be really scared right now, they may actually genuinely care about their coworkers! And this has the poten…

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Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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Post by bogomipz »

vayarajesh wrote: post #21
edoceo wrote: post #2

Stunt or Stand? So much noise right now it's hard to tell. Hope Time demonstrates this as a genuine move. BigCo with lots of PR weight can really keep the story at the top (or push it over the top)

Even if it is a Stunt, people are still getting help and that's what matters

What help are refugees getting from AirBnB? The only details are:

"Stayed tuned for more info"

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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Post by lllllll »

Tulip68 wrote: post #14

Excellent news on an otherwise pretty terrible day. Brian Chesky and the entire Airbnb team are showing America at its very best: forward-looking, innovative, diverse, multicultural and. The contrast with the Trump-type people -- primarily angry, insular, bitter old people who are terrified of brown people and still live within 10 minutes of their high school -- could not be more striking.

I dont think such generalizations will help much. You are displaying yourself as angry, insular and bitter. Consider the option of trying to understand ppl with different opinions, however disgusting Trump's speeches are - IMHO they are.

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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Post by lllllll »

I'm reading around here that Airbnb's contribution in this matter is limited to providing the infrastructure to volunteer hosts for free, which is still good. My question is: do they also provide insurance to these hosts? I mean if one of the volunteer hosts suffers damages in her/his property of 10'000$ hosting refugees, will airbnb cover it? Genuinely curious, not judging here.

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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Post by bogomipz »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #38
ssijak wrote: post #36

Why have not you done that before for existing homeless people or other people in need? This just smells like ugly marketing scheme. I mean, it is good if someone in need is helped, but why now and why that wording and scope to only refugees?

That's dumb argument, sorry. Disaster relief is temporary and help is provided to people who suffer from external circumstances. Housing for homeless is a daily job for the government and it is different, significantly bigger problem, for which the solution is not affordable for any single private organization or person. Private organizations have limited resources and they have the right to choose whom to support fi…

No its not a "dumb argument". Homelessness is just as much of a humanitarian crisis. It's just nowhere nears as large a part of the news cycle.

>"Disaster relief is temporary and help is provided to people who suffer from external circumstances"

Refugee resettlement is a significant undertaking that often involves a year or more of living in transition. This isn't "disaster relief" in the sense that there was a flood or an earthquake and until the town can be rebuilt people are displaced. The refugees are people from Somalia, Iraq Eritrea and Afghanistan as well. They are fleeing war and oppression there as well. And sadly the situation isn't going to change in any of these places. To call it temporary is inaccurate. These disasters have endured now for the last 15 years.

>"Housing for homeless is a daily job for the government and it is different"

Except that much like the refugee crisis the help from governments isn't fixing the problem.

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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Post by Dorothy1989 »

For unemployed people who have lost their homes and live on the streets or for thousands of homeless poor Americans, AirBn(another Soros backed company) was never so sensitive. But for refugees who can afford the 1000+ $ trip to the States, Airbn is so humane. Please, my mind hurts.

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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Post by Dorothy1989 »

ssijak wrote: post #41
ivan_gammel wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's dumb argument, sorry. Disaster relief is temporary and help is provided to people who suffer from external circumstances. Housing for homeless is a daily job for the government and it is different, significantly bigger problem, for which the solution is not affordable for any single private organization or person. Private organizations have limited resources and they have the right to choose whom to support fi…

Well, US gov (Clinton and Obama) created this refugees in the first place. They are all coming from the areas that this administrations ruined in one way or another.

It is sade that comments like yours get downvoted. It seems noone here in HN wants to listen to the truth. Perhaps they are ignorant or conscientiously aware of what the States has done to Syria and want to muffle the truth. Reality hurts, does it?
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