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Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by r3bl »

beckler wrote: post #23
gnufied wrote: post #8

I really wanted an Email client for Linux which isn't power hungry but unfortunately last I tried Nylas - it was always top app in `powertop`. An always running app has to be low on power consumption IMO, but because so many apps are being built on top of webkit/electron most of them pretty much suck when it comes to battery usage. Another case in point is slack app. On Linux, it is probably the worst app. :(

Slack is the worse offender on my 2011 MBP. I have to kill it all the time because of runaway resource usage.

Tried ScudCloud? Open source third-party Slack client (also based on Electron): https://github.com/raelgc/scudcloud

Never really compared their resource usage since I'm only in one Slack team 99% of the time and even the official app isn't that horrendous in that use case.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by ekianjo »

gnufied wrote: post #8

I really wanted an Email client for Linux which isn't power hungry but unfortunately last I tried Nylas - it was always top app in `powertop`. An always running app has to be low on power consumption IMO, but because so many apps are being built on top of webkit/electron most of them pretty much suck when it comes to battery usage. Another case in point is slack app. On Linux, it is probably the worst app. :(

How about Geary ? Or ClawsMail ?

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by criddell »

azinman2 wrote: post #67
gregman1 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the best electron app possible but it is still a very bad app.

Why a bad app?

I think gregman1 means bad from a resource consumption point of view. It takes a lot of memory and CPU compared to similar, non-electron based text editors.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by innocentoldguy »

I used Nylas back when it was free, and it is a good email client, but it just wasn't worth $7 a month to me, and certainly not $12, especially when I consider that Office 365 Business Premium is only $12.50 a month, and includes Outlook, Word, Excel, etc. I would never use Office 365 personally, but when I consider the value offered by Office 365 Premium vs. Nylas, for about the same price, it makes Nylas Email look grossly overpriced.

It seems to me that Nylas could make a lot more money by charging $1 a month, since there are likely many, many more people willing to pay $1 vs. $12. Probably more than the 12 to 1 ratio required to break even.

I like Nylas, and think it is a good email client, but their pricing suggests they haven't done the market research and competitor analysis required to price themselves strategically and to be successful.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by artursapek »

I open the page and have no idea what Nylas is. I click on the logo and I'm taken to the blog home page, where 60% of the screen is the Nylas logo with no subheader telling me what it is. I click on it again and it just refreshes the blog index. No link to nylas.com. How do so many people make the same mistake?

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by OJFord »

shreve wrote: post #54
yoasif_ wrote: post #39

Is there a build available which doesn't require users to sign up for a Nylas ID? The support page states that "If you’re using N1 against our open source sync engine, you’ll still need to create a Nylas ID." Given the privacy policy says that Nylas shares information with third parties and that they can "make a copy of the entire contents of the applicable email inbox, calendar, and contact book", it doesn't feel li…

That's an integral part of how it works. Their sync servers download your email, then sync with your local client. You need that ID to log into their server and access your individual email accounts.

Not any more, per the post, the performance boost comes from using Gmail's, Exchange's, et al. APIs directly rather than remote IMAP sync + provide REST API for the client.

Cloud now used for "much much much much less" [0] - just tracking and stuff. Sync-engine also (?) runs locally now, I'm not totally clear on how this works but there's apparently some currently closed source stuff to become open 'soon', so it should become clearer exactly what's going on.

There's also apparently some details to follow on their engineering blog [1].

[0] - https://github.com/nylas/N1/issues/3166 [1] - https://nylas.com/blog

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by Ianvdl »

wslh wrote: post #47
gnufied wrote: post #8

I really wanted an Email client for Linux which isn't power hungry but unfortunately last I tried Nylas - it was always top app in `powertop`. An always running app has to be low on power consumption IMO, but because so many apps are being built on top of webkit/electron most of them pretty much suck when it comes to battery usage. Another case in point is slack app. On Linux, it is probably the worst app. :(

Sylpheed? http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/ screenshots here: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/screenshot.html

I don't know how I ever missed this one when I searched for email clients. That looks like such a breath of fresh air: the download is under 10MB and it even supports GPG.

I guess I found a replacement for Thunderbird.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by Fnoord »

ilSignorCarlo wrote: post #4

I used Nylas for a while and really liked it, until they they forced everyone to pay $7 per month to use it. Here's the original discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11553738

> I used Nylas for a while and really liked it, until they they forced everyone to pay $7 per month to use it.

Sorry, but that isn't a fair way of describing what occurred.

Nylas is a startup, trying to figure out a business model which works for them.

You're not yet forced to pay. If you had a Nylas ID back when Pro was announced you got a gratis year of subscription. Now, they released a gratis version once more, called Nylas Mail, which is also open source. The backend is also open source.

What this means is that they've adopted a freemium model, and you got approx half a year to still enjoy your Pro license.

I haven't done a feature comparison between Mozilla Thunderbird (which I know is not everyone's preference but was my previous cross platform e-mail client), Nylas Mail, and Nylas Pro. If anyone knows one, please share.

My main concern is the backend being hosted in US by a US corporation. I don't like my data being hosted by US corporations, on US soil, and I recommend non US-citizens/residents to care about this.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by olalonde »

gnufied wrote: post #8

I really wanted an Email client for Linux which isn't power hungry but unfortunately last I tried Nylas - it was always top app in `powertop`. An always running app has to be low on power consumption IMO, but because so many apps are being built on top of webkit/electron most of them pretty much suck when it comes to battery usage. Another case in point is slack app. On Linux, it is probably the worst app. :(

Why not use Gmail as an email client?

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by dx034 »

gregman1 wrote: post #58
suprfnk wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> One day someone will build a good Electron app. Visual Studio Code is very good in my opinion. It can be done.

It's the best electron app possible but it is still a very bad app.

Why's that? VSCode actually looks to me like a native app. It's really fast and behaves properly like any native app would. I guess most people wouldn't notice it's not native.
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