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Re: Pedal to the Chrome metal: Our fastest beta to date for Windows, Mac and Linux

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Things keeping me from using Chrome: * Lack of built-in RSS support. This one kind of blows my mind. * Worst progress indicator I've ever seen. * Can't open external links in new windows, have to open in "tab of whatever my last used browser window was". * Flash crashes more than it does in Safari/Firefox, but I don't blame Chrome for that. Not exactly constructive to the conversation I guess, but at least the first…

Just like you, many things that are keeping me from switching to Chrome from FF but the biggest one for me, and perhaps lots of FF users out there, is faithfulness. We have known it's a pain (since Chrome’s appearance) but we can bear with it because at least, FF doesn't leave their users behind.

They are working on new Javascript engine which targets to a significant improvement in speed: http://ajaxian.com/archives/mozilla-jagermonkey-method-based...

They are also working on stability and I would bet it will be much better than Chrome (my friend is using Chrome and he reported lots of crashes even though it is designed for "crash free" at beginning). http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/firefox_implement_outo...

FF is playing catch up on these issues but hopefully, with all other stuffs (Weave, Contact, Account Manager...) that Mozilla is investing in, FF will be the world champion in browser competition market!

Re: Pedal to the Chrome metal: Our fastest beta to date for Windows, Mac and Linux

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I'm not sure how Chrome's treatment of custom search engines differs from Firefox's. In Chrome, you can associate a URL with a keyword so that when you type "keyword query" into the address bar, the %s parameter in the associated URL is replaced with your query. In what way is Firefox's better?

In Firefox, I can type any of the following into the awesome bar: "d victual" -> looks up "victual" "j joust" -> gets "joust" in a Japanese dictionary "wp Boron" -> displays the wikipedia page "Boron" "hn patio11" -> displays HN comments of "patio11" How can I do this in Chrome? Last time I checked, it wasn't possible. If it is now, then I might start using Chrome for more resource intensive flash games.

This can also be done in Chrome, see other responses here. What Chrome also does is that it discovers searches by itself, so that when I type "im" and the autocomplete brings up imbd.com I can press tab, my search word and enter. There is no need to manually add the keywords.

Re: Pedal to the Chrome metal: Our fastest beta to date for Windows, Mac and Linux

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What do you mean with the address bar? Chromes bar also has autocompletion. I even find it simpler to use. In Firefox, I have to press the down-key + enter to select a suggestion. In Chrome, I just have to press enter. What do you think is missing otherwise in Chrome? I think the overall user experience is probably much better compared to Firefox in nearly all aspects.

While I use Chrome as default, I too miss Firefox autocompletion. In Firefox, I would just start typing "Hacker News" and HN would popup as a first suggestion after first letter, probably based on usage frequency. The only way to get the same result in Chrome, is to start typing "news.ycombinator.com", which means you have to remember url, not the name. Chrome, will surely find by "Hacker News" too, but I will need t…

Huh, when I write "hac" the top suggestion in Chrome (well, Chromium daily) is HN.

Re: Pedal to the Chrome metal: Our fastest beta to date for Windows, Mac and Linux

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I'd have to say the developer tools are comparable to Firebug and won't freeze Chrome the way Firebug periodically freezes Firefox.

You, my friend, clearly don't use Firebug that much. Until you can add new attributes to existing selectors in developer tools, it simply cannot compare

You can also do that with Chrome's builtin inspector.

Re: Pedal to the Chrome metal: Our fastest beta to date for Windows, Mac and Linux

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You, my friend, clearly don't use Firebug that much. Until you can add new attributes to existing selectors in developer tools, it simply cannot compare

You can also do that with Chrome's builtin inspector.

How? It doesn't seem to work like Firebug does where I can just double click and new attributes...

Re: Pedal to the Chrome metal: Our fastest beta to date for Windows, Mac and Linux

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In Firefox, I can type any of the following into the awesome bar: "d victual" -> looks up "victual" "j joust" -> gets "joust" in a Japanese dictionary "wp Boron" -> displays the wikipedia page "Boron" "hn patio11" -> displays HN comments of "patio11" How can I do this in Chrome? Last time I checked, it wasn't possible. If it is now, then I might start using Chrome for more resource intensive flash games.

You can do the same in Chrome. Check under Options ("Basic" tab) > "Manage" next to Default Search. You should see a list of search engines. If you've already used the search engine and Chrome has picked it up, just select it from the list, "Edit", and customize what keyword you want to use (by default it uses the basic URL). If it's not there, "Add" to make a new one. For example, for Wikipedia I use: Keyword: wp UR…

I see from your responses why I couldn't find that-- you're all talking about search engines! I wasn't thinking of HN or bi-lingual dictionaries as search engines and I never even considered managing search engine options rather than just adding a keyword to a bookmark (which Chrome won't let you do).

It's definitely a weird interface and a lot of menus to go through, but once it's set up, it's pretty much the same as FF's search bookmarks. Thanks.

Re: Pedal to the Chrome metal: Our fastest beta to date for Windows, Mac and Linux

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Same thing for me. The possibility to integrate search engines (or other forms) with a keyword is what keeps me in Chrome. I have to agree though that FFs autocomplete feature is better. Chrome only seems to match addresses if you type their beginning.

Firefox has also had this feature for a while, right click > 'Add a Keyword for this Search' which is indispensable.

Not the same. Chrome automatically picks up every search engine you use.

Re: Pedal to the Chrome metal: Our fastest beta to date for Windows, Mac and Linux

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Probably the single thing that keeps me using Firefox is its address bar. It's a much nicer experience than Chrome's, with its user-friendly auto complete mechanisms. The speed of the browsers is rarely the bottleneck for me anymore. I'll switch to Chrome for intense javascript experiences, but that's about it. I feel like chrome needs to start focusing more time on the experience - these speed improvements aren't pa…

They are for anyone using node.js.

Re: Pedal to the Chrome metal: Our fastest beta to date for Windows, Mac and Linux

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You meant http://www.google.com/reader , right? (or one of several online alternatives). Why would anyone want to read their RSS feeds in a single browser on a single machine in 2010? Do people these days really spend all their online time at a single machine?

When a user clicks on a .rss URL in FF the page is rendered in a human-readable format. This aids the user in determining whether or not the feed is worth subscribing to. Chrome displays it in plaintext. Now you've gotta import it into your reader before you decide if you really even want to subscribe.

You can preview feeds in Google Reader now, without having to add them.
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