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Re: Wine 2.0 RC1 Released

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wine + mingw cross compiler = native Windows apps development on Linux. I still couldn't find how to do the reverse without VM.... update Just found coLinux. seems to be stagnant, though.

Out of curiosity, how do you test your builds?

You only need mingw for building. Wine is for testing.

Re: Wine 2.0 RC1 Released

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I can name maybe a dozen that do all that foobar2000 does Do it. Be sure to show how the mass tagger works in each one of them. Especially the pattern matching to extract data from filenames, I really like that feature.

Why use MP3 tags anyway? I don't understand, they're so burdensome to manage. I just do: ./Artist/Year - Album/Track - Title.mp3 It'll work with any music player and you can organize it even on a toaster, as long as it has coreutils. I use plain old mplayer to listen to music, just cd into the directory I want and call a script I made which is basically a glorified `find | xargs mplayer` (actually outputs the filenam…

Then you can't find symphonies by different composers, performed by different orchestras, but with the same conductor.

Unfortunately, this is also close to impossible in online music services, in my experience.

Re: Wine 2.0 RC1 Released

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This reminds me so much of several people I've heard complaining that Linux doesn't have nodepad++.

And the prize for the worst analogy goes to... Linux doesn't have anything like foobar2000. Note even close. The feeble attempts to name alternatives in this thread are evidence of it. You need to compose several other tools to get the major functions and you'll still end up with half the functionality (and 10 times the bloat!).

So did you mean to say you can get 95% of the functionality with a few lightweight tools?

Re: Wine 2.0 RC1 Released

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Of all the things you could use wine for.. an mp3 player, really? I can name maybe a dozen that do all that foobar2000 does

I can name maybe a dozen that do all that foobar2000 does Do it. Be sure to show how the mass tagger works in each one of them. Especially the pattern matching to extract data from filenames, I really like that feature.

EasyTAG works quite well for me on Linux for just that.

Not sure if it has all the other features you need, and it's a standalone tagger, but works very well.

Re: Wine 2.0 RC1 Released

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I can name maybe a dozen that do all that foobar2000 does Do it. Be sure to show how the mass tagger works in each one of them. Especially the pattern matching to extract data from filenames, I really like that feature.

To me, listening to and tagging music seem to be two rather orthogonal problems. There are very good tagging applications that don't actually play the files. My current favorite definitely is beets ( http://beets.io/ ), although it may take some minutes to set up (at least if you want the hashing feature where the audio itself is used to look up metadata). Another (rather old) Windows-Application that was very useful…

As an addendum for beets: If you're willing to experiment with a more radically different concept than most audioplayer applications provide, I would also recommend looking into MPD. There's a rather nice framework around it called Mopidy [1] which provides plugins for things like Spotify/Soundcloud support - and one such plugins provides integration with beets [2].

[1]: https://www.mopidy.com/

[2]: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/Mopidy-Beets

Re: Wine 2.0 RC1 Released

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post #65

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And the prize for the worst analogy goes to... Linux doesn't have anything like foobar2000. Note even close. The feeble attempts to name alternatives in this thread are evidence of it. You need to compose several other tools to get the major functions and you'll still end up with half the functionality (and 10 times the bloat!).

So did you mean to say you can get 95% of the functionality with a few lightweight tools?

And can you name those lightweight tools, which work together nicely, use fewer resources and do almost everything foobar2000 does?

Here's a short list of requirements:

1. proper gapless-playback (which eliminates all GStreamer based players)

2. DSP support (during playback and when converting files)

3. ReplayGain support

4. Something like: http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Foobar2000:Title_...

which works everywhere (converter, tagger, searching, UI (columns, window title, status bar, ...), album art fetching, grouping, ...)

5. an SDK to allow equally powerful plugins

6. Custom keyboard shortcuts for everything (e.g. quickly switch the current DSP profile when you plug in headphones)

7. Auto-playlists

8. Automatically detect changes in the file system and update library accordingly

9. A powerful query language: http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Foobar2000:Query_...

10. CUE sheet support

Re: Wine 2.0 RC1 Released

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Why use MP3 tags anyway? I don't understand, they're so burdensome to manage. I just do: ./Artist/Year - Album/Track - Title.mp3 It'll work with any music player and you can organize it even on a toaster, as long as it has coreutils. I use plain old mplayer to listen to music, just cd into the directory I want and call a script I made which is basically a glorified `find | xargs mplayer` (actually outputs the filenam…

Can you filter by genre? I know that you could do something like ./Genre/Artist/Year - Album/Track - Title.mp3 but there is possibly other elements that are useful in mp3 tags... and what if one song could be classified in multiple genres? would you keep multiple copies?

symlinks.

Re: Wine 2.0 RC1 Released

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Why use MP3 tags anyway? I don't understand, they're so burdensome to manage. I just do: ./Artist/Year - Album/Track - Title.mp3 It'll work with any music player and you can organize it even on a toaster, as long as it has coreutils. I use plain old mplayer to listen to music, just cd into the directory I want and call a script I made which is basically a glorified `find | xargs mplayer` (actually outputs the filenam…

And by that you lose quite a lot of flexibility. How do you listen to all the classical music that was composed in the 19th century, and was added during the last month to your library? With foobar2000 (or other players) this can be done in a matter of seconds, and you can create an auto playlist based on those criteria which updates automatically when you add new songs or songs no longer match.

Well if you need that then use mp3 tags. I never had that need.

Re: Wine 2.0 RC1 Released

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post #72

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Why use MP3 tags anyway? I don't understand, they're so burdensome to manage. I just do: ./Artist/Year - Album/Track - Title.mp3 It'll work with any music player and you can organize it even on a toaster, as long as it has coreutils. I use plain old mplayer to listen to music, just cd into the directory I want and call a script I made which is basically a glorified `find | xargs mplayer` (actually outputs the filenam…

Then you can't find symphonies by different composers, performed by different orchestras, but with the same conductor. Unfortunately, this is also close to impossible in online music services, in my experience.

Sure you can , find | grep.

Re: Wine 2.0 RC1 Released

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post #34

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Can you filter by genre? I know that you could do something like ./Genre/Artist/Year - Album/Track - Title.mp3 but there is possibly other elements that are useful in mp3 tags... and what if one song could be classified in multiple genres? would you keep multiple copies?

symlinks.

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