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Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by agumonkey »

cleeus wrote: post #22
rkangel wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People just don't seem to realise that moving parts are hard. Phones are incredibly complex but (mostly) just keep working until you drop them on a hard floor. Cars have lots of moving parts and need maintenance. Screens use complicated technology and (mostly) just keep working. Printers have moving parts and break a lot. Moving parts are inherently unreliable. We've just got really used to the incredible reliability…

As a counter example: My Kyocera Mita FS1020-D is working well since 2004. Reliable things (printers) with moving parts can be built.

To get back on the build solidity point, I've yet to have a mechanical failure on a printer. Problems are often fluid dynamics (clogged pipes, heads). Outside of these parts, a printer is pretty simple device, geometrically speaking.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by alyandon »

thearn4 wrote: post #66
agumonkey wrote: post #6

We'll have Fusion reactors before solid and enjoyable printers.

I have a black and white Brother brand laser printer that has been great going on 5 years.

Same here. Switched to Brother and am never looking back.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by mrdavid »

vbezhenar wrote: post #28
rkangel wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People just don't seem to realise that moving parts are hard. Phones are incredibly complex but (mostly) just keep working until you drop them on a hard floor. Cars have lots of moving parts and need maintenance. Screens use complicated technology and (mostly) just keep working. Printers have moving parts and break a lot. Moving parts are inherently unreliable. We've just got really used to the incredible reliability…

My iPhone 4S has 0 moving parts, yet it had failed WiFi after 1 year. My Macbook has 0 moving parts, yet it had failed SSD. My Renault Logan has quite a lot of moving parts, yet I use it for a few years and almost 100 000 kilometers (and that's quite a lot of movement in extremely different weather conditions, from -40 to +40) and I had very minimal maintenance outside of regular oil change. While I generally agree,…

The iPhone has a home button, power button, and volume buttons that all move. The Macbook's keyboard is comprised of moving parts. There's also the screen hinge which used to be a very common point of failure in laptops.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by zimpenfish »

mrdavid wrote: post #73
vbezhenar wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My iPhone 4S has 0 moving parts, yet it had failed WiFi after 1 year. My Macbook has 0 moving parts, yet it had failed SSD. My Renault Logan has quite a lot of moving parts, yet I use it for a few years and almost 100 000 kilometers (and that's quite a lot of movement in extremely different weather conditions, from -40 to +40) and I had very minimal maintenance outside of regular oil change. While I generally agree,…

The iPhone has a home button, power button, and volume buttons that all move. The Macbook's keyboard is comprised of moving parts. There's also the screen hinge which used to be a very common point of failure in laptops.

Minor nit - the iPhone 7 doesn't have a physical "home button" - it's a force-sensitive area with haptic feedback.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by jameskegel »

BrandonBradley wrote: post #49
tssva wrote: post #2

My Nexus 6P went into a boot loop on Monday and I got an RMA issued. UPS emailed me the return shipping label last night and when I went to print it this morning I couldn't because my Epson WorkForce 845 was in a boot loop.

Yo dog. You got 'boot looted'.

We don't do that here.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by rplst8 »

I've had the same thing happen with my Epson WF-3540. It's been a totally solid printer up until this point.

To fix it I started it up and immediately disabled the Wi-Fi. Then I "suspended" Google Cloud Print and Epson Connect Services. It's working fine now - albeit with no cloud services for our phones/tablets.

Hopefully they resolve this soon.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by agumonkey »

alyandon wrote: post #72
thearn4 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a black and white Brother brand laser printer that has been great going on 5 years.

Same here. Switched to Brother and am never looking back.

Thought about switching to a Brother laser, possibly wireless, with automated recto-verso scanner too.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by toomuchtodo »

Spooky23 wrote: post #58
semi-extrinsic wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're saying I should definitely rescue the unused LaserJet III from the dusty corner at the office printer room?

Absolutely. They are no doubt the best printers in your company's facility. Most printers for enterprises are garbage now without a service contract or managed print deal. For personal use, the brother laser devices <$100. Are the best bet. Simple, reliable and most of the things that break are either field replaceable or you can ditch the device.

> For personal use, the brother laser devices Rarely do I fanboy over a piece of electronic device, but this rings so incredibly true. I get thousands of pages out of my Brother laser printer per toner cartridge, it duplexes, the wireless just works. If you absolutely need a printer, get the sub-$100 brother laser printer.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by lucaspiller »

userbinator wrote: post #40

On first glance Google Cloud Print looks like nothing more than an Internet version of networking printing, a technology which has been around for a long time; so one is naturally a bit surprised that Epson could get something like this wrong, but then I dug a little deeper... https://developers.google.com/cloud-print/docs/devguide ...and the protocol involves HTTPS, OAuth, JSON, and XMPP(!), so rather more complex t…

Wonder why they decided to invent their own protocol? I've used IPP over the internet via an SSH tunnel, it's slow but it works.

Re: Epson customers report Google Cloud Print causing printers to power down

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Post by agumonkey »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #78
Spooky23 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely. They are no doubt the best printers in your company's facility. Most printers for enterprises are garbage now without a service contract or managed print deal. For personal use, the brother laser devices <$100. Are the best bet. Simple, reliable and most of the things that break are either field replaceable or you can ditch the device.

> For personal use, the brother laser devices Rarely do I fanboy over a piece of electronic device, but this rings so incredibly true. I get thousands of pages out of my Brother laser printer per toner cartridge, it duplexes, the wireless just works . If you absolutely need a printer, get the sub-$100 brother laser printer.

May I inquiry your Brother printer model ?
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