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Re: Ask HN: Best encrypted messaging app atm?

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The last I read was that Telegram was not secure. Is that not the case?

IIRC telegram secret chats are somewhat fine, all normal chat and group chat is insecure Correct me if I'm wrong though

Reading more about it, I think you're right.

Re: Ask HN: Best encrypted messaging app atm?

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Can you tell us all more here?

Sure, Situation: Us "techies" know or easily can learn how to set up encryption and protect ourselves, the general public will not. Everyone needs encryption but most will only use it if: -their friends are using it -it is so easy a cave man can do it -it is beautiful Complication: Current products are hard to use and are built for hackers. Encryption products need to build in vitality and understand the use cases of…

Have you looked at what Pretty Easy Privacy is doing?

https://www.prettyeasyprivacy.com/

They have iOS and Android clients, along with a subscription available for Outlook (Windows), and planned desktop versions for Apple Mail, Thunderbird and Web Browsers (Safari, Mozilla, Chrome and IE).

Re: Ask HN: Best encrypted messaging app atm?

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"Biocoded source code, security protocols and implementations are audited by independent security agencies. Open source is not a guarantee or even an indicator of security. For sensitive governmental and corporate use, open source solutions are often dismissed outright." https://biocoded.com/faq#0

> Open source is not a guarantee or even an indicator of security. This is true. > For sensitive governmental and corporate use, open source solutions are often dismissed outright." But this is a false argument. Open source solutions aren't dismissed because they are open source per se, but because they generally lack predictable longer-term support.

Just quoting it for Foxboron, never said I agree with it.

Re: Ask HN: Best encrypted messaging app atm?

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I am under the impression iMessage is pretty secure and I use it extensively as most of my friends and colleagues have iPhones. Refer to http://www.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pdf which specifies that RSA 1280-bit keypairs are used, and the private key is held on the device. So in terms of transit - the protocol should be secure. The only remaining option would be to question whether iOS is secure/inse…

> I am under the impression iMessage is pretty secure Why's that? (I'm asking seriously, because I don't understand how people get this impression.) iMessage has some very fundamental design flaws that led to this attack: https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2016/03/21/attack-o... The attack is not super-spectacular, but the more worrying thing is that the design is not sound. They use an ad-hoc crypto constructi…

Yes, but all software may have bugs. The attack you referred to was fixed in 9.3, and going forward there are no known attacks as far as I know. I think it's safe to assume a lot of people out there are continuously trying to break the iMessage crypto. For attacks that are not disclosed to the public (e.g. intelligence agencies that would like to keep it secret), this can really apply to any of the other competitors including Signal.

Re: Ask HN: Best encrypted messaging app atm?

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Sure, Situation: Us "techies" know or easily can learn how to set up encryption and protect ourselves, the general public will not. Everyone needs encryption but most will only use it if: -their friends are using it -it is so easy a cave man can do it -it is beautiful Complication: Current products are hard to use and are built for hackers. Encryption products need to build in vitality and understand the use cases of…

Have you looked at what Pretty Easy Privacy is doing? https://www.prettyeasyprivacy.com/ They have iOS and Android clients, along with a subscription available for Outlook (Windows), and planned desktop versions for Apple Mail, Thunderbird and Web Browsers (Safari, Mozilla, Chrome and IE).

It seems they only have an outlook plugin. I can't find their mobile apps.

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Have you looked at what Pretty Easy Privacy is doing? https://www.prettyeasyprivacy.com/ They have iOS and Android clients, along with a subscription available for Outlook (Windows), and planned desktop versions for Apple Mail, Thunderbird and Web Browsers (Safari, Mozilla, Chrome and IE).

It seems they only have an outlook plugin. I can't find their mobile apps.

Mobile apps linked here: https://www.prettyeasyprivacy.com/get-pep-mobile/

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It seems they only have an outlook plugin. I can't find their mobile apps.

Mobile apps linked here: https://www.prettyeasyprivacy.com/get-pep-mobile/

Click on the App Store button. It just says "coming soon"
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