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Re: Elementary OS

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Post by r3bl »

mercurysmessage wrote: post #57
rcarmo wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP here. It does not add anything that I wanted, and I had already ditched XFCE in favor of LXDE in the past. The point of the post was not to get Elementary running on a Chromebook, it was to see if I, coming from a Mac, could use it on a future desktop without issues and the usual ugly UIs Linux DEs have.

Go to Reddit.com/r/unixporn, with some minor tweaking it's very easy to make Linux look nice.

Minor tweaking?

/r/unixporn crowd is always interested in posts that customize their Linux setups to the max: use Window Managers almost exclusively, have a unified color scheme all over the system etc. That's not minor tweaking.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by rcarmo »

achikin wrote: post #61

What about power management? I've heard that elementary is not as good as MacOSX at that.

On this chromebook, it's OK. I get 6-8 hours coding, same as under Lubuntu.

But I intend to use this on a beefy desktop crammed with VMs and Docker containers, so that's not a problem for me.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by gravypod »

rcarmo wrote: post #55
gravypod wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would move to an Elementary OS if it's UI/UX was moved over an Arch based distribution. I mean Elementary OS simply looks beautiful and is stable(-ish). On top of Manjaro or something that holds back updates I wouldn't be able to figure out a more perfect development/daily driver system.

There were people trying to get Pantheon onto AUR. No idea how that's going.

Just like everything in the AUR I presume. It probably works, but when it stops doing that you're never going to get it working again.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by sandGorgon »

mavelikara wrote: post #9

My mini Ask HN: After over a decade of using Mac OS X, I am considering switching to Linux for my dev laptop. The tools I worry about are those that interact with audio and webcam - Go To Meeting, Google Hangout etc. My work involves me having to teleconf with others often. Does anyone here have experience using Linux well in such scenarios. If so, what hardware are you using? Also, does sleep-on-closing-lid work wel…

linux works perfectly well in all these scenarios and is actually better than Windows.

hangouts works brilliantly. skype (even the old version) works great with both audio and video. in fact i have switched over to the skype web version which works on the chrome browser (no video call for now.. but audio works brilliantly).

i use fedora 24..which just works and is pretty cutting edge. i switched over from Ubuntu pretty recently and have been very happy.

im on a xps 13. previously i was on a thinkpad. there is no dearth of cool laptops on Linux.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by e40 »

mavelikara wrote: post #9

My mini Ask HN: After over a decade of using Mac OS X, I am considering switching to Linux for my dev laptop. The tools I worry about are those that interact with audio and webcam - Go To Meeting, Google Hangout etc. My work involves me having to teleconf with others often. Does anyone here have experience using Linux well in such scenarios. If so, what hardware are you using? Also, does sleep-on-closing-lid work wel…

No matter what this informal poll shows, there will be more problems than with macOS, over the long term. I know lots of people that use Linux and they very often have problems with audio apps. As for sleep-on-closing-the-lid, I think that's gotten better, but I don't think it will ever approach the stability of it on macOS. In 5 years, I think I've had a very small number of problems with this on macOS, and it always involved undocking from a physical keyboard, mouse and multiple monitors. My friends on Windows and Linux are always having problems with this.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by Johan-bjareholt »

e40 wrote: post #75
mavelikara wrote: post #9

My mini Ask HN: After over a decade of using Mac OS X, I am considering switching to Linux for my dev laptop. The tools I worry about are those that interact with audio and webcam - Go To Meeting, Google Hangout etc. My work involves me having to teleconf with others often. Does anyone here have experience using Linux well in such scenarios. If so, what hardware are you using? Also, does sleep-on-closing-lid work wel…

No matter what this informal poll shows, there will be more problems than with macOS, over the long term. I know lots of people that use Linux and they very often have problems with audio apps. As for sleep-on-closing-the-lid, I think that's gotten better, but I don't think it will ever approach the stability of it on macOS. In 5 years, I think I've had a very small number of problems with this on macOS, and it alway…

I have personally never had any issues with audio on linux the past 5 years. ALSA and pulseaudio have become pretty mature now. Only thing i needed for hangouts to work was to install Chrome instead of Chromium and then it worked. Webcam, audio and mic worked out of the box. I have however heard that there are some issues with the iSight camera on Macs under Linux, I have not tried this myself though.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by overgard »

bangonkeyboard wrote: post #67

The Mac UI ripoff issue may not matter to you, but it does to me. It's gross and slavish, like using a KIRF Chinese knockoff phone with stolen icons.

Yeah, to me it's kind of the broken-windows theory. When I see something that tasteless upfront, it makes me question the quality of the thing from the top down. It's like if you went to buy a used car and it had flame stickers all over it. Sure, it's just surface level tacky, but it would lead you to question how well the owner took care of it. When I see a bad macOS knockoff, all I can think is, if the best their ux design can do is rip off apple, then I'm not sure I want to commit long term to the thing (especially since I think that many of apple's UX decisions have actually been really bad form-over-function calls)

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by reitanqild »

mavelikara wrote: post #9

My mini Ask HN: After over a decade of using Mac OS X, I am considering switching to Linux for my dev laptop. The tools I worry about are those that interact with audio and webcam - Go To Meeting, Google Hangout etc. My work involves me having to teleconf with others often. Does anyone here have experience using Linux well in such scenarios. If so, what hardware are you using? Also, does sleep-on-closing-lid work wel…

My idea that I think would work but never came around to before Windows became usable for me was to keep a linux workstation or decent developer laptop and then have an iPad (or some good Android pad) for Skype etc.

That I think would be the best of both worlds for me.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by pjmlp »

Jade_Jet wrote: post #63
pjmlp wrote: post #2

Kind of interesting overview, but it doesn't support XCode nor the Objective-C and Swift frameworks I care about.

Didn't they make it so swift can run on any OS now? Also it sounds like you want the ability to develop for osx on a non-osx device. That seems counterintuitive.

I don't want it, I am pretty fine with the latest models and find amazing the amount of vocal UNIX users against it.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by pjmlp »

rcarmo wrote: post #32
pjmlp wrote: post #2

Kind of interesting overview, but it doesn't support XCode nor the Objective-C and Swift frameworks I care about.

Of course not. I never meant to suggest this would be a macOS replacement - and as a former dabbler in GNUStep, let me tell you that that way wouldn't work either.

I am ok with the Mac as it is, I don't see an issue with it, and actually am looking forward to eventually being able to play with the magic toolbar from Swift in a future acquisition.
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