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Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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This is so annoying for us. I'm not using Dropbox, Google Drive or OneDrive but GitHub is the tool we use the most as a software agency. We've set-up a VPN server for our team for the moment. Only good thing coming from this is that I've discovered a software called Pritunl today which made setting up the VPN pretty easy.

The real solution off course is to rid your country of the embarrisment of Erdogan. Vote. If thats still legal coming next election.

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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Even China can only limit their citizens access to the extent that it doesn't totally hinder economic growth. They would never be able to completely insulate themselves from the "outer" internet without massive harm to themselves, the same goes for any country in this day and age. The risk of harm will always outweigh the minimal discomfort through free and open discourse that the internet inherently brings with it.

Actually what happens in China is that homegrown tech companies will take over the market space left by Western ones, which the government is perfectly happy to let happen because 1. It keeps the tech industry domestic 2. The servers are physically inside China, guaranteeing them access to the data This is why I've always thought that the Great Firewall's purpose is not only censorship, but also a form of Internet-ag…

It's definitely those, and likely also a matter of national security: 3. The CIA doesn't get to know about the private lives of every state and military official and their families.

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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post #71

This is so annoying for us. I'm not using Dropbox, Google Drive or OneDrive but GitHub is the tool we use the most as a software agency. We've set-up a VPN server for our team for the moment. Only good thing coming from this is that I've discovered a software called Pritunl today which made setting up the VPN pretty easy.

The real solution off course is to rid your country of the embarrisment of Erdogan. Vote. If thats still legal coming next election.

I think we are not that close to having theatre elections. I hate admitting it but democracy works pretty well in Turkey.

There are just too many uneducated people here that are influenced by power and religious-themed party platforms. I'm not sure if I'm being elitist but a good democracy requires good, educated people.

The ruling party is systematically fucking the education system here, creating more religious schools, adding more voluntary religious classes. ProTip, in Turkey voluntary classes means it's probably mandatory since school headmasters tend to pick whatever they please for the students, citing scheduling problems and being understaffed.

I've made peace with the fact Erdogan is not going anywhere soon but I still hope for the country. I have an opinion about him and his party which is not popular among my peers. Erdogan is not a stupid bigot. He is not Trump, for example.

From the first day, AKP always hired the best minds in the country. The party had a culture of being reasonable, the founders were good, educated people with the right mindset. They were conservative, which I hate as an atheist, but also social democrats. They supported most things Bernie Sanders supports in the U.S. with a good balance for free market and capitalism. But they attracted stupid bigots as a result of being a religious party. They've done a good job bringing conservatives in Turkey together (also a result of hiring the best, their PR was always good[0]). AKP has a rule where their members can only serve 2 terms in the parliament. As time went by, good ones were replaced by the new generation of party leaders who are just puppets for the President. All the good people were pushed out of the party because they started to disobey orders from the top. They are bigots and too religious. Time to to time, I catch glimpses of Erdogan, supporting our secularism, saying "it's unacceptable to create an Islamic constitution".

As they push religion more on Turkey, more they'll lose support. Because educated people are looking to get away. Investors included. This is hurting the economy. President Erdogan or his advisors soon will see they need to be merging the country not separating it. They'll act more secular and sane. Because as it stands now, AKP will be lost in history after the President dies. They don't want that. They are also scared of religious powers here since the coup attempt. Only people they trust right now is the people they alienated and sentenced to life in prison. Kemalists.

All this combined, we'll see worst days after we see the light but I have hope we'll see it.

[0] The owner of agency which handled most things for the AKP lost his life, along with his son on the Bosphorus Bridge on the night of the coup attempt. Which is why I don't believe AKP was behind the attempt. He was always loyal and a good friend to the President. He cried at the funeral which is something I've never saw him do and not the best political action if it was a role.

(Quick note, I'm sorry if this is too political. I started writing a sentence but I wanted to say something like this for a while, I just had to get it out I guess.)

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

#74

This is so annoying for us. I'm not using Dropbox, Google Drive or OneDrive but GitHub is the tool we use the most as a software agency. We've set-up a VPN server for our team for the moment. Only good thing coming from this is that I've discovered a software called Pritunl today which made setting up the VPN pretty easy.

Streisand [ https://github.com/jlund/streisand ] works quite well too.

I've actually looked for this and couldn't find it. I should've looked at my starts on GitHub. Pritunl was too easy but I'll try this for my personal needs. :)

Thanks for the link.

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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Streisand [ https://github.com/jlund/streisand ] works quite well too.

If you can access github...

We'll, most people I know in Turkey already uses ZenMate on their browsers. It doesn't help in this situation since all these "apps" are also installed software so you need a VPN installed to route every connection for the computer.

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

#76

This is so annoying for us. I'm not using Dropbox, Google Drive or OneDrive but GitHub is the tool we use the most as a software agency. We've set-up a VPN server for our team for the moment. Only good thing coming from this is that I've discovered a software called Pritunl today which made setting up the VPN pretty easy.

Oh, so all that TLS/SSL errors were because of this! I thought my PC's configuration was broken...

Though there is a lesson in this, apart from politics etc.: if it's not public, don't put it on the net, e.g. set up a Raspberry Pi in your office with a static IP and use it as the DVCS server. Thus, what happens in the outer world does not disrupt your work, and if there is a problem or a need, you can sort it out.

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

#77
And this is why the web should be decentralized. To be clear, not so we can access centralized services (Dropbox, Google Drive, and MS OneDrive), but so an entire country can't have it's access to the Internet so easily censored / blocked. This has happened like, a thousand times already, but I guess, like Ebola until it hits the U.S.A. hard enough we're gonna just keep on reading about it in the news with some fascination but otherwise not caring to act.

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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We started seeing more sophisticated DPI capabilities after the Feb '14 internet regulations[0] that required ISPs to block by URL and content strings IMO blocking so many sites so broadly is a sign that their DPI is failing, because their preference seems to be to block as narrowly as possible because of negative economic effects. [0] http://aa.com.tr/en/turkey/turkey-s-general-assembly-ratifie...

With ssl the best they can do is this host level blocking unless they perform mitm attacks.

> unless they perform mitm attacks

Which any state-sponsored actor can easily do, of course.

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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It seems like the turkish government is trying to create jobs here. Building a "nationalised turkish twitter alternative"? The way things are right now, they need a nationalized turkish github service first.

National Turkish government alternative may be a solution.

Actually, it's not acceptable from a national security standpoint to massively let a country's citizen flock on US services, at least as long as the NSA/CIA exists. The internet does need much more competition on all continents, including for webmail services. For example I don't see why my government (in Europe) should accept tax reports with a US email (because everybody has @gmail.com or @hotmail.com) – Why not at this point go all the way and delegate our tax collection to the American IRS...

On the other hand it has to go towards privacy, choice and democracy. Obviously cutting your citizen from the international websites is the one wrong way to stem local competition...

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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It's a torrent file you damn ignorant politicians. Tell your favorite IT guys to block this : magnet:?xt=urn:btih:489b0cef1d7d49fe5ae2ae8cc2f0708b8286cbb3&dn=All+mail+Including+Spam+and+Trash.rar

Added another seed. 11G, that's quite the archive. The more exposure this gets the better.

First time I'm really scared to allow a torrent.

btw, some people talk about a 17GB fileset, is it the same leak uncompressed ?

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