Interesting - unlike the Snowden bust - which had his face everywhere - hard to figure out what this bro looks like
N.S.A. Contractor Arrested in Possible New Theft of Secrets
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Secret" arrests are fairly common, they are often used daily when you need to arrest a large group of people without them scattering. Say you have 5 arrests warrants for members of a gang, you often can't arrest them all the once so here is where the "secret" comes into play when they are arrested and the arrest is maintained confidential for 24-48 hours depending on the jurisdiction. This is done to prevent the res…
I guess, then, the real question is, what is a "non-secret" arrest? Do the police/FBI routinely release public information in the case of every arrest?
I think in a "non-secret" request you may contact an attorney or family member.
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#73I ask myself what I should be more upset about: that someone walked away with government hacking tools, or that our government knew about existing exploits in critical American company technologies and kept them a secret?
Understandable complaints, but isn't the latter just standard procedure in modern cyberwarfare? I think I would be more upset if America didn't have any offensive zero-day weapons to strike with. If we only had capability against foreign companies software, everyone would just buy American and be immune.
This doesn't make any sense. You will have attack cyber weapons, but at the same time you risk that your enemies can use the same weapon against the infrastructure you are there to protect.
Collecting attack weapons, but letting your defense rot is a strategy which might work in computer games.
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#74Here's the criminal complaint. Check Paragraph 12, sounds like he just liked to take work home with him. I'm leaning on the side that this IS NOT ShadowBrokers. https://lawfare.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/staging/2016/Mart... EDIT: Yeah, Martin is not even being charged with unauthorized disclosure. Not ShadowBrokers, sorry to burst everyone's bubble.
So there have been at least three leaks from the NSA? That's ridiculous; they need some drastic changes and urgently.
People enforce all security physical and digital. If people don't believe in the mission there will be leaks.
The biggest change might simply be that they need to start doing unambiguous good or their workers will keep leaking stuff.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nobody has managed to find any documents that passed through Clinton's email server that were labeled as classified, let alone Top Secret. (One or two documents had classified sections, which were labeled with small (c) marks. The document should have had big CLASSIFIED marks, but since it didn't, missing a (c) next to a paragraph is not an arrestable offense)
Stop pushing this myth. I want Hillary to win as much as the next reasonable person, but that doesn't mean she didn't mess up. There were dozens of classified emails that were in fact classified at the time they were sent. Some of which were Top Secret. Some of which were even Special Access Programs. Whether something is marked or not is actually irrelevant. Part of her responsibility and this contractor's responsib…
Point taken. You're correct on all points.
Discussing classified matters through an insecure method is a far cry from physically taking documents home, not least because it's clear the discussions were being undertaken as part of her official duties. Taking documents home is a lot more ambiguous as to intent.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nobody has managed to find any documents that passed through Clinton's email server that were labeled as classified, let alone Top Secret. (One or two documents had classified sections, which were labeled with small (c) marks. The document should have had big CLASSIFIED marks, but since it didn't, missing a (c) next to a paragraph is not an arrestable offense)
You are not being neutral by using the Clinton spin of "labeled as classified". The existence of markings is irrelevant. From the FBI statement: 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret informat…
I find the situation she engendered as ridiculous as everyone else, but the public report, at least as far as I could tell, did not differentiate sending and receiving of information. Ascribing criminal culpability to her is therefore unclear based on the public form of the report, and the lack of charges implies that it's unclear in the classified version of events as well.
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#77here's an unsubstantiated claim that gave a great laugh:
> "For the N.S.A., which spent two years and hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars repairing the damage done by Mr. Snowden, "
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#78He didn't learn much from Hillary's case.... Always claim that you didn't know that there was any classified material and always bring your attorney along, even if it's a voluntary interrogation.
Also make sure you are one of the most politically connected people on the planet and married to an ex POTUS.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Secret" arrests are fairly common, they are often used daily when you need to arrest a large group of people without them scattering. Say you have 5 arrests warrants for members of a gang, you often can't arrest them all the once so here is where the "secret" comes into play when they are arrested and the arrest is maintained confidential for 24-48 hours depending on the jurisdiction. This is done to prevent the res…
This arrest happened in late August, it seems. Has SCOTUS set limits on how long prisoners can be held secretly?
Yes, unsurprisingly there is an enormous amount of case law on this topic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus_in_the_United_St...
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Constitution is a piece of paper, and might influence certain parts of Government to some degree, the same as any other piece of paper. But the beliefs of the people are what really matters. And if the people don't actually entirely agree with the Constitution to the point that they're willing to fight for it and drag their representatives out of Government over it, it's as useless as any other piece of paper.
I think you'll enjoy: The Myth of the Rule of Law... http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/MythWeb.htm
I've read over that, and while I found the majority of the article interesting, I found the conclusion jarring. Especially as a true Marxist would agree with many of the ideas throughout the article, but come to an entirely different conclusion - that the solution to law being imposed on society isn't to allow people to choose which entity they'll allow to impose on them, but to allow society to directly create its own order.
Of course, just as you might look like the article's Socrates for suggesting free markets of law, you'd look even more like him for suggesting that maybe some issues are best resolved through means other than markets or monopolies.